72 points

“New York Life all said they’ve never hired prompt engineers, but instead found that—to the extent better prompting skills are needed—it was an expertise that all existing employees could be trained on.”

Are you telling me that the jobs invented to support a bullshit technology that lies are themselves ALSO bullshit lies?

How could this happen??

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screw NewYorkLife, but LLM’s are definitely not bullshit technology. Some amount of skill in so-called ‘prompt-engineering’ makes a huge difference in using LLMs as the tool that they are. I think the big mistake people are making is using it like a search engine. I use it all the time (in a scientific field) but never in a capacity where it can ‘lie’ to me. It’s a very effective ‘assistant’ in both [simple] coding tasks and data analysis/management.

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The gap between expected behavior and behavior is narrowing each iteration, plus people are starting to understand the limitations a bit better. The things AI does well you’re talking about are being parceled off as AI Agents for monetization and don’t require additional staff to oversee, they’re turnkey solutions.

The headline here is that AI is costing us jobs but not replacing them. And if you’re concerned that AI is a bubble, imagine what that’ll mean when it blows and these companies start faltering and being purchased. This is all mindless disruption with no foresight.

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37 points

prompt engineer

They were paying people to fucking ask it questions? A professional Google searcher?

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28 points

To be fair, there are tricks to it just like there are tricks for getting better Google results. But “prompt engineering” isn’t a fucking career.

It is evidence of a leadership team that is just clueless.

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prompt engineering does require skills. It’s just that, rightly or not, they are now seen by companies as foundational skills for a lot of jobs and worth investing in training for most employees (rather than hiring a team of prompt specialists).

Like if you work in certain roles you need to have good knowledge of spreadsheet software, you don’t go to your company’s “Excel guru”.

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6 points

exactly this - SEO (search engine optimization) is huge, just like “prompt engineering” is extremely valuable - and its quite different from SEO. I wouldnt think either is a full-time position but, but learning to effectively prompt and use LLM’s is definitely a skill.

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In my experience SEO is largely bullshit too and the rest is so simple you could summarize it on maybe two regular pages of paper and actually documented on pages that the search engines publish themselves (stuff like duplicate content, stable URLs, which status codes to use when,…).

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They were paying people to try to make them answer the questions correctly because getting an LLM to do what you want it to was excruciatingly difficult just a few years back (and kinda still is).
Especially when what most companies want (factual, accurate, intelligent answers to difficult tasks or questions) is not something LLMs are actually made for (slapping words together using probability in a way that makes a reader to think it might have been written by a human).

But yes. Professional google searcher, just from back in very early 2000’s when there were TV quiz shows about people being given a question and trying to find the answer as fast as possible as it was an actual special skill (an sometimes it feels like it still is, judging by how often people ask stupidly simple questions on social media)

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9 points

I’m in IT. A lot of my job is Googling the answer, but I have to know what to ask and sift through what to look for that most employees won’t know.

A photographer will know what to input better than the average Joe to get a better photographic image out of ChatGPT by giving F-stops/aperture, shutter speed, ISO, lenses, bokeh/depth of field, rule of thirds, etc.

But yes… we’re getting closer and closer to George Jetson’s job of pushing one button and calling it a day.

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37 points

No shit.

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10 points

Yay!

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Pretty sure lots of kids writing a paper for school are “prompt engineers”.

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