Today i took my first steps into the world of Linux by creating a bookable Mint Cinamon USB stick to fuck around on without wiping or portioning my laptop drive.

I realised windows has the biggest vulnerability for the average user.

While booting off of the usb I could access all the data on my laptop without having to input a password.

After some research it appears drives need to be encrypted to prevent this, so how is this not the default case in Windows?

I’m sure there are people aware but for the laymen this is such a massive vulnerability.

69 points

And this is why we say physical access is root access.

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Absolutely it’s crazy that it’s so simple that you can do it in the space of 5v minutes.

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11 points

You should look into HDD platter recovery. There’s some really high quality stuff on YouTube.

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7 points

Aw buddy.

Go look at the free software called autopsy

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Most Linux users run fully unencrypted drives as well. Its a vulnerability and a risk but its not a massive threat to the average person.

Idk if the average person is a laptop user but laptop users would definitely place a higher value on disk encryption.

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Same in Linux. No disk encryption and everything is easy accessible if you have physical access.

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Unless someone ticked the “encrypt storage”-box in the installer, you don’t even have to pay for Pro to use it!

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Physical access wouldn’t seem so hard. Say you worked at the company company and wanted to get the files your boss has on your evaluation or something. Wait till they’re on lunch, plug in a usb and pull them up.

I imagine patient records wouldn’t be encrypted either

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Any respectable company with Windows would be using BitLocker - full disk encryption. It’s super easy to setup if your computer has TPM, fully transparent for the user in most cases.

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I imagine patient records wouldn’t be encrypted either

If computerised, they freaking well should be.

In general they’d be in a database with it’s own accesss control to interfaces and the databases data store should be encrypted. In my country there are standards for all healthcare IT systems that would include encryption and secure message exchange between systems. If they breached those they’d be in trouble.

If your doctor has a paper file in a filing cabinet on premises, written in English, then yes. The security is only the physical locks, just like your hme pc.

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That’s why you can’t just boot from an usb

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such a “hack” would only work in a poorly written tv show

an unencrypted drive is like being able to look into a bank though a window, not ideal but things of value could/should/would still be in a safe or somewhere else completely

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I’m happy that you’re on a journey of discovery. This is not an insult. The word is partition. Someone corrected me on the spelling of something last night. We all make mistakes.

(especially with reference to a country with separate areas of government) the action or state of dividing or being divided into parts.

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I thought BitLocker was enabled by default on Windows 11, which is a terrible idea imo. Full disk encryption by default makes sense in professional settings, but not for the average users who have no clue that they’ll lose all their data if they lose the key. If I had a penny for every Windows user who didn’t understand the BitLocker message and saved the key on their encrypted drive, I’d have a lot of pennies. At the very least it should be prompted to give the user a choice.

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Windows does not let you save the key to the drive being encrypted. (Unless you access it via SMB share, which I’ve done a number of times during setup before moving it off.)

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You mean it prevents people from writing the key on a piece of paper when they get the BitLocker message, then copy it on a text file once their session is running and throw the paper away or lose it later ?

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This is true - it is enabled by default in win11. I disagree with you it being a terrible idea - imagine all the sentistive data people put on their hard drives - would they want to to fall in the wrong hands if they lose their computer? Or if their hard drives fails so they can do a secure wipe?

I’m not a fan of Microsoft, but they did solve the key issue in the enterprise setting by storing the key in they entrance identity. Same should be done for home consumers, since having a Microsoft account is being shoved in everyone’s throat anyway…

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It’s a matter of perspective I guess. I’m not a fan of overkill security measures that get too much in the way of usability and risk creating problems for you, especially when physical access is a minor risk in most cases. I agree that having a Microsoft account to backup your key is a solution, but not a very good one since you trade vulnerability to a possible physical access that probably is never going to happen for the absolute certainty of your data being spied on by Microsoft…

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Yeah, should be noted that bitlocker is only default enabled if you set windows up with a Microsoft account, since it then saves the recovery info on that account “in the cloud”.

If you set it up with a local account, you still need to enable it manually, so that you can save the recovery info somewhere else.

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