34 points

I see that Proton’s very hard at work convincing me to migrate.

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look pal do you hate progress

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I haven’t always been actively enthused about some of the things Proton has decided to build out, but this may be the first time I’ve been legitimately disappointed.

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At this point I’m kind of glad I accidentally renewed my other VPN service and didn’t switch to Proton.

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22 points

Proton better not go downhill I can’t be changing addresses willy nilly.

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If you’re willing, I strongly recommend people get their own domains. That way, you’ll always be able to change email providers without changing your address.

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9 points

You’re right honestly. I hold my username dot com right now I might as well use it.

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9 points

I migrated my email to Proton not long ago, but I also used my own domain when changing emails in all the bazillion accounts I own. My motivation was exactly what you describe. I’m so happy that now I could easily ditch Proton any day if the need arises.

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@Banshee @drdiddlybadger I’d rather have someone else host my email. Though! I have my own domain name but I’d rather pay someone to manage the email server. Is this possible?

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Yes, it’s not only possible, but fairly easy to do! Depending on which registrar you purchased your domain through, you may be able to have them host your email. That may be the easiest option, but your registrar could suck so I can’t recommend that off-hand.

Third party providers, like mailbox.org, mailfence, proton, tuta, runbox, zoho and others can all host your email. You just need DNS records and proof it’s your domain.

Below is a link to mailbox.org’s guide on hosting with them.

I read a few different guides and it seemed like the most comprehensive. The steps should be fairly similar for every potential email host.

https://kb.mailbox.org/en/private/e-mail-article/using-e-mail-addresses-of-your-domain/

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6 points

Setting up email and actually getting into people’s mailbox isn’t trivial.

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most providers have the option to BYO domain name, usually for a fee, it’s a good idea

(tho mind you i’ve used @gmail for 20 years now)

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If you self host? Absolutely. That’s a nightmare. Paying a provider (like proton, for instance) to manage your custom domain email is easy. I haven’t run into any issues having my email accepted, even by hotmail addresses.

You might run into issues with some newer TLDs, but that is slowly being fixed. Also .xyz domains get sent to spam a lot because they’re usually used for malware.

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9 points

So as someone who recently switched to proton before this BS, what’s good to switch to?

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IMO you gotta consider the email and calendar functions as inseparable, whereas the rest of the Google bundle can be teased apart. Privacy Guides is perhaps a bit too stingy with their recommendations, but at minimum they give you a lot of food for thought when they lay out their criteria:

https://www.privacyguides.org/en/email/ https://www.privacyguides.org/en/calendar/

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I host my calendar on Nextcloud and email (currently) through Protonmail. What makes them inseparable?

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Well, you know better than me, because I’ve never not used them together.

How do you, for example, invite people to things? Does your calendar just send an ICS attachment to Proton on SMTP? How do you RSVP for other people’s invites? Do you download the event to your calendar and separately respond in proton? Do you get updates in the calendar app about other people’s RSVP status, or just emails?

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Depends a lot on what you’re looking for. If you just want email, then you have a lot of options. Mailbox.org, Posteo, tuta, mailfence, fastmail, and runbox all come to mind. If you want a full gsuite replacement, ala proton unlimited, then your options are limited.

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9 points

my adhd domain blocker just lifted for the weekend and this was the first thing I saw

I wonder if there is commentary value in the world of fucked brands and researching unfucked brands and potential conflicts with key people in those companies.

If I knew the ceo of proton was a bitcoin maxi it would have been a fun journey to now

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fuckedcompany.com used to be a thing, so I imagine so

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yeah, that was the inspiration. I think it would be fun to call out companies which are existing despite their fucked brand. I guess it would be part of my pet theory that brand has been superseded by ux as the real commodity of tech capitalism

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