70 points

I wonder if all the bot activity on reddit makes it look so busy that people are confused when they come somewhere with far fewer bots around?

I notice significantly more positive interaction with (at least what I believe to be) real humans here than I did on reddit in my last couple of years there.

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27 points

People always talk about wanting to grow Lemmy, but honestly I like it a lot more the way it is. You can comment on a post that’s been on All for 6 hours and still get plenty of thoughtful responses. On reddit, there was so much noise - especially on major threads - that commenting was like pissing into the wind.

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I also choose this guy’s comment!

Now make people restating it 800 times half the thread. Switched a few weeks ago, and honestly the fact I have yet to see the words heckin or wholesome, nor the annoying as fuck story style of banal metaphor they think is relatable and super clever, sounding like a chimichanga doused in tabasco making its emergency 3AM exit be known, has all sold me. Reddit seems to be a bunch of people who think they’re super unique and progressive as they salivate over Marvel movies and rehash the same 9 political talking points, 50 posts, and 4 philosophy quotes they don’t understand ad infinitum. It is reddit without redditors, and doesn’t feel like it is curated by the DNC’s PR department. What’s not to love?

I think lemmy’d be ideal if it was double our triple its current size. Maybe just large enough to convince r/askhistorians to jump ship.

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4 points

I would say “^This” in jest but didn’t want to traumatize you, so wrapped it in this sentence:-). But yeah, I decided to leave Reddit for good around the time of the protests. Fortunately I had Kbin (a now-defunct alternative to Lemmy, the project carried forward by Mbin and somewhat in spirit by PieFed which I am on now) to jump to, but seriously I was going to leave all that trash regardless. I did not enjoy what it was doing to me - like how argumentative and defensive I was having to become upon saying ANYTHING at all, and more often choosing not to respond in places like r/pop(ular) bc of the feedback that would inevitably come.

The Threadiverse (threaded-style defederated forum software, currently Lemmy + Mbin + PieFed) isn’t perfect, but is so much better! It requires a ton more effort to set up than Reddit did (well, Lemmy does - check out PieFed’s setup wizard and you’ll never look back!:-P), yet unlike corporate enshittified Reddit is worth it. Breathe the free air here!

Also an interesting article to read about the addictive effects that such platforms engender in their unwitting participants: https://medium.com/@max.p.schlienger/the-cargo-cult-of-the-ennui-engine-890c541cebcb .

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10 points

i can see the same thing, things that have been published for hours see steady activity, even some which are lively for a good few days, it feels less like flitting between a bunch of new things which is useful

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3 points

I find the current Lemmy perfect for general news and discussions, but I sure do miss some of the more niche hobby communities reddit had to offer.

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6 points

The solution on that on Reddit has been, retreat into more niche communities, remove default subs from your feed. Right now the way to make Lemmy usable is to browse All, because otherwise there isn’t enough content, but I bet as it grows it will go the same way.

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3 points

I sub to smaller comms I don’t see much on, and use all as a generic feed.

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4 points

For Lemmy that’s what I used to do yeah, bc there was no better option.

PieFed offers numerous additional options though, most especially categories of communities, including user customizable and shareable Feeds. You can even have your cake and eat it too - like subscribe to no political communities to avoid them showing up in your Subscribed, but then it’s a click away in the News and Politics Topic area. Or, the keywords filter options (for e.g. “Trump”, “Musk”, or whatever you want) include All, None, and Some, allowing you to refine your Subscribed feed to meet your interest level in a particular subject.

And then for very low-volume communities, you can even set up Notification triggers upon every new post (I also use this for a community I mod using a Lemmy alt) - e.g. poetry tends to not be highly upvoted so super difficult to catch organically on either All or Subscribed (you might have more luck there sorting by New, but this requires blocking a TON of communities like for sports and individual locations and such).

PieFed really is an entirely different experience than Lemmy! Maybe as it becomes successful, the Lemmy devs may start to port the features over? But it’s doubtful, as existing requests have languished for like 5 years already - PieFed’s being written in Python rather than Rust really makes a difference in such matters.

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21 points

I’ve noticed the same. I’ve also noticed it become slightly more combative and strawman-y with the influx of new folx, but maybe getting better again lately? Anyway, this is just going by anecdotal/vibes, and it’s definitely better than mainstream/commercial socials.

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I’ve also noticed it become slightly more combative and strawman-y with the influx of new folx, but maybe getting better again lately?

I’d like to think it’s because the mods here are a lot less likely to aid and abet that shit. I don’t know if it is, but that’s what I’d like to think.

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8 points

Yeah mods and admins around here put in some real good work protecting their users.

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7 points

have you looked at comments on an instagram post? you’d absolutely never be allowed to to say half what gets said there here

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3 points

I think it’s the same phenomenon in multi-player gaming - community hosted servers tend to have less garbage flying around compared to centrally hosted company servers.

If you run your own server, you’re far more likely to care about the user experience. And if you run your own server, you make your own rules and can manage how you’d like - no obligations.

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1 point

theres also the fact your comment rarely gets buried here.

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2 points

No wait… don’t you see?

The robots have already breached our defenses.

You’ve seen what they’ve done to other websites!

And worst of all, they could be any one of us…

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2 points

Are you one?

I am 🤖BEEP🤖 definitely not one!

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2 points

Probably slightly controversial but I’m actually missing getting into arguments with strangers. I feel like I need some conflict in my life.

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3 points

Go to hexbear[.]net or lemmygrad[.[ml comms then ;)

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1 point

Thank you. Just took a breif look at Hexbear. I wasn’t able to see much but from one comment I was able to see, they seem like colourful characters. Lemmygrad are obviously tankies. Don’t know what I was expecting from the name.

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1 point

What’s your most controversial opinion?

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That if Trump annexes Canada, European countries should provide weapons and ammunition to Canadian guerrilla groups. Tends to scare people IRL. Didn’t get into an argument on Reddit over it. They just report me.

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1 point

On Reddit though, mostly what they offer is arguments with robots? 🤖😜

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26 points

I honestly think that there is more direct activity here. I asked the same question on reddit in 3 different places, but had more replies here than there.

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11 points

Less bots. Reddit is all bots now

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9 points

Dead Reddit theory Explains the popular subs’ comments

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7 points

Take my updoot, buckaroo! 🫵🤠👍

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8 points

It depends if you want to have a conversation with bots or other people

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24 points

Yeah, what the hell?

I was a prolific reddit commenter for over a decade and myailbox would be empty each day

I have 600+ comments waiting for me now iny Lemmy inbox. Something is different

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13 points

601 now >:)

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6 points

You were shadow banned most likely

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7 points

Because if you didn’t post to small subs or be one of the first 20 or so comments on a big sub post, you’d get buried.

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27 points

I wish I could check a box “No notifications” when posting

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21 points

Piefed has an option to disable them

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15 points

Mbin does as well.

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12 points

I need to use Piefed more.

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5 points

Not only there, but the little bell icon next to… well… everything. i.e. not only at the time of posting, but at any time you can click, unclick, click again, etc.

And you can do it for other people’s content as well as your own.

You can also do it for other people too, or for communities (both of those work best for low-volume entities, obviously:-P). Like poetry tends to get swamped out in Hot, and is still fairly rare in New, so the notifications is one way to make sure to receive all of them. Or posts for a community that you moderate, even if using an account on a different instance.

PieFed is fantastic! 😍

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7 points

I commented on like ~50-60 threads a day on reddit, when I had it.

I would get like 3 notifications, and half would be about votes.

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