The admins on lemmynsfw.com have decided to allow “non-IRL loli”, i.e. drawn porn involving children/teenagers. (Post: https://lemmynsfw.com/post/29633).

Irrelevant of the moral issues that this poses, such content is illegal in many countries (e.g the UK). Continuing to federate with lemmynsfw.com will put users at risk of significant legal repercussions.

Please would the admins consider defederating unless lemmynsfw change their policy.

UPDATE: The lemmynsfw admins posted an clarification here: https://lemmynsfw.com/post/29826. My original argument for defederating doesn’t stand any more.

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2 weeks ago: Lemmy is so amazing, create an account anywhere and you can access everything! It’s like forums but better!

Now: defederate >:(

Ugh. I get the concern in scenarios like this, but in the last couple of days every instance has calls to defederate from this or that. Eventually it’s just gonna be small islands of “very compatible” instances.

Well, guess it’s back to making separate accounts for everything!

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Defederation leads to echo chambers. I’ve certainly had enough of that in Reddit!

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They did post an update about it

Looks like its less about blatant loli/shota content and more about “characters who are petite/young-looking but not obviously underage”

How and if that changes anyones feelings about it is up to them.

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I don’t care about drawings, there are no victims, but if it’s illegal by law it poses a problem.

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Tbh, I feel like it actually should be defederated. I am not against porn, I literally made an account there like I have a separate account on reddit for porn, but I would love to not have all the porn stuff flooding the feed on my sfw account. Sadly there are no convenient filter options yet as it seems.

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You can enable “disable NSFW” in user settings

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I wish there was a way to separate NSFW a little more - I don’t mind NSFW stories and adult language and so forth when scrolling but if I’m in public I don’t want to scroll All and see porn. I have no problem with porn, but to me there’s a time and place.

When I have NSFW disabled, I’m losing entire communities that I read the stories from because sometimes the content does 100% need the warning flag that it might not be for general audiences, but I don’t mind seeing an R rated movie in public while I won’t go see an NC-17 movie or an X rated movie in a theatre, personally, if that makes sense.

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As a federation shouldn’t we start with Diplomacy? This is a prime example. We didn’t wait long enough, and it was clarified rather quickly.

Defederation should require more deliberation and unless an immediate emergency shouldn’t there be other actions under consideration first.

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If any illegal content would be posted there, let us know. If it’s 1 community, we can block the community. If it’s all over the place, we can defederate. But I see defederation as a last resort. If there are other ways to keep our server safe I prefer that.

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Also, when you set Type to Subscribed in Settings the front page default feed only contains posts from communities you have actually subscribed to.

This does not prevent lemmy.world from accidently hosting illegal content, but it helps to protect your own feed from unwanted stuff.

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I think it’s worth pointing out that legality depends on jurisdiction and while it’s obviously a requirement to obey the your (and other admins’) local laws, it’s not quite so clear-cut when it comes to other countries.

Eg. It’s illegal to criticize Hong Kong’s government under their National Security Law. But I think we’d (the community here, not just you and me) agree that lemmy.world has absolutely no obligation to follow that law.

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