https://beta.maps.apple.com/

It doesn’t seem to support Firefox or mobile browsers, at least not.

Maps on the web is compatible with these web browsers

On your Mac or iPad

  • Safari
  • Edge
  • Chrome

On your Windows PC

  • Edge
  • Chrome
58 points

Ah come on! Why no Firefox support?!?

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I just tried it on a Firefox fork on Android. Works fine if you spoof the useragent.

I hate that bs

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For people like me who thought they have to hack into the Pentagon to spoof their Browser data: you can do that by using chameleon, an extension thats at least in the Firefox add on page

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4 points

For a while Apple artificially blocked signing in to your Apple ID with physical passkeys (like a Yubikey) on Firefox even though the browser supported it just fine.

Their “iCloud for Windows” browser extensions didn’t support Firefox either last time I checked (needed for syncing bookmarks and the password manager).

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2 points

I get it. It’s still beta, and we’re only like 2% of the market. Makes sense not to worry about us yet.

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33 points

Not compatible with Firefox is the fastest way to know they don’t follow web standards. On brand.

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I dislike Apple more than most people, and they are indeed terrible with standards in general, but with web standards they’re doing the world a bit of a favour by pushing WebKit (based on KHTML) on all its users. WebKit is open source and used in for example GNOME Web.

Had it not been for Apple nobody would give a shit about creating websites that work outside of Chrome.

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3 points

2% and shrinking with every major service that isn’t compatible

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1 point

Then we’ll make our own fedi-services with blackjack and hookers, someday… One can dream.

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2 points

🤷‍♂️ It’s in beta, so I wouldn’t assume that support won’t get added.

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I would. Apple has a long history of intentionally crippling its services on Firefox.

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43 points

What is this shit?

Oh wow another proprietary maps service that uses opensource data that’s years late! wow amazing!

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apple maps uses openstreetmap underneath? but I think they add a lot of other data like traffic and poi details

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I’m confused, because doesn’t Duckduckgo Maps already use Apple Maps?

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Kagi Maps has it as an option too. And it works on Firefox. 🤷

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I didn’t know Kagi had a maps functionality. It’s interesting, but I couldn’t find a way for it to tell me public transportation directions, the only reason I keep using Google Maps…

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Yeah I can only find driving directions. I’ve come across other apps over the years but only ones on Google Play Store. I don’t think I’ve seen any mobile apps that are open source and do my region.

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If you wanna degoogle, https://www.openstreetmap.org is the way to go.

For your phone:
https://organicmaps.app (simple, easy to use)
https://osmand.net (more features)
https://www.magicearth.com (proprietary, with traffic info)

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Trade one master for another. All these companies have the same playbook on a slightly shifted timeline.

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…profit?

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