141 points

We asked for Linux native apps and collabrative office suites not this garbage.

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They need Linux developers to do that

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Linux needs linux developers

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Linux has developers. It just needs more desktop users.

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It honestly probably has too many Linux developers. I’d love to develop for Linux, but the job market is super competitive, so I work building web apps (hosted on Linux). I have the skills to hack on Linux things (I build desktop Linux apps for fun), there just aren’t many job opportunities.

If I could get paid something close to what I’m making now, but to work on FOSS, I’d do it in a heartbeat. But the options I see are:

  1. fight like crazy to get one of the handful of jobs
  2. get paid almost nothing
  3. not work in FOSS

I don’t have the energy for 1 and 2 won’t work for my family, so I go for 3. I do plan to do 2 once I have enough to not need my current income (current projection is about 10 years).

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OK get Linux developers then. we pay for the Software and they asked us what we want them to work on. This is one of the rare cases where Linux users can actually feel entitled to developer attention.

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Except it’s cheaper to pay their existing non-Linux developers to do something than hire a team of new developers for Linux.

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You might be surprised to find out that, just like everywhere else, Linux users are a minority among the Proton userbase.

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They need a simple GUI on top of rclone. The madlads of rclone fucking reversed engineered the drive APIs in record time. Now imagine if they were to tosh some money into that project, and then could focus only in GUI.

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They didn’t have to reverse engineer the drive API. Proton created an open source library to use their API, which was forked to integrate with Proton-API-Bridge, so that apps could easily use it.

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Like this collaborative document editor they added a month ago?

https://proton.me/blog/docs-proton-drive

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Yes I am aware. Thats a great start but its pretty barebones and needs far more developement.

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61 points

They should stop adding more and more services and instead focus on making existing services better or - in some cases - feature complete first.

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Like proton mail? The existing service that this update is adding a feature to?

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What, sending bitcoin? That’s not really a feature of Proton Mail, rather it’s a feature of the wallet that happens to be able to send bitcoin via email (I suppose so that the recipient can then transfer the funds to a bitcoin address of their choice unless their email address is already linked to Proton Wallet).

Even if you’d consider this a feature of Proton Mail, how does this have higher priority than a proper iPad/tablet app, or the ability to add a .ics attachment directly to my (default, non-Proton) calendar without having to manually download the .ics file, open it with a file manager and then add it to the calendar? Filtered views (for example: view unread and starred messages but nothing else in one list)? A somewhat usable offline mode? The list goes on, and that’s just Proton Mail. Proton Drive still lacks a native Linux app (I know there’s “support” for Proton Drive in rclone, but that’s hacked together because Proton doesn’t even provide official API documentation and stability commitments).

I’d rather pay for the individual services that I can actually (somewhat) use, like Mail (even though it’s not great), but their Mail only tier severely lacks in features (only 1 custom email domain is my main problem). If they’d then commit the financial resources towards improving the service being paid for, that’d be great.

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No, the LLM. The LLM is for use in ProtonMail only.

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Maybe they should get search working first? Or just contacts sync?

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What’s wrong with the search?

Also, sync contacts to what?

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56 points

I expected more from them, even more so when they turned into a non profit.

I have no interest in it, but Bitcoin wallets aren’t necessarily private, and they say the LLM is also private. Given that pretty much everything is trying to mine as much data as possible from your digital interactions, this seems on brand for them.

I still have no interest in Proton Unlimited, but maybe enough of their customers want these features (or they think they will).

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Yeah, but their llm doesn’t even disclose where it gathered its training data, very sus.

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Techradar says it’s based on the Mistral 7B large language model. But they should definitely disclose that kind of information. It’s important to know how a tool works and what kind of mistakes, biases etc are to be expected when using it for important communication.

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They is no chance they are the one training it. It costs hundreds of millions to get a descent model. Seems like they will be using mistral, who have scrapped pretty much 100% of the web to use as training data.

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It has to be very good with porn stuff, in that case 🤔

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I’ve been pretty happy with my swap to Proton lately, but this makes me nervous.

Not that I hate AI or crypto, but their mail app, the thing they’re known for, is not feature complete on all platforms. I still cannot set or edit filters on mobile, for example.

If your flagship app is missing basic features that users have reported for months but you just keep rolling out new shit, it starts to feel like too much like Google, yakno?

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Agree on Crypto, but the LLM is literally a Proton Mail feature.

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46 points

Oh wow, they’re hitting all the shitty gimmicks in one fell swoop!

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