Synology’s telegraphed moves toward a contained ecosystem and seemingly vertical integration are certain to rankle some of its biggest fans, who likely enjoy doing their own system building, shopping, and assembly for the perfect amount of storage. “Pro-sumers,” homelab enthusiasts, and those with just a lot of stuff to store at home, or in a small business, previously had a good reason to buy one Synology device every so many years, then stick into them whatever drives they happened to have or acquired at their desired prices. Synology’s stated needs for efficient support of drive arrays may be more defensible at the enterprise level, but as it gets closer to the home level, it suggests a different kind of optimization.

122 points

It’s like they don’t understand their demographic.

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Yeah, I think their CEO might have QNAP stock or something.

It’s hilarious how dumb this is.

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8 points

Hilarious and pathetic.

Like Brexit.

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They absolutely do. But it’s a symptom of capitalism. They must seek higher and higher profits each year. And this is one of their ideas to seek higher profits…

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13 points

Growth imperative. Greed will never be satiated.

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The worst is that it will probably increase profit or a quarter or too while running the brand to the ground.

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That’s capitalism, baby! /s

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101 points

That would be my exit sign

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Mine too. Already priced a new build half the price just the data migration I’m not looking forward too.

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Curious as to what you are getting. Was planning to buy my Synology build some time later this year but not so sure about that anymore.

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1 point

Building my own i3 8 bay build after finding a good cheap case called saggitarius on ali express

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Can you migrate Synology data? I haven’t ever found a way.

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4 points

Rsync or SCP?

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That’s a massive shot in the foot.

As a Synology owner, I already had enough - they have arbitrarily cut customer support to sanctioned jurisdictions, leaving me without the support they promised and I expected when paying for a device.

Next one will definitely be built from the ground up.

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They are probably betting they will make more money from businesses. I.e., actual pros, vs prosumer.

I do like my Synology NAS I bought 10 yrs ago, but these days there are more and better alternatives for people who dont really need to pay for the support and stability.

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47 points

The enshittification/rent seeking continues. Nothing is sacred.

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If I had known how bad it’d get I would’ve chosen a different field to work in. Sure, I can avoid it in my private life but on the job it’s like I’m in some kind of hostage situation.

“Oh hi there customer! You know our product your users are accustomed to will only come as a subscription from now on and it’ll also be really bad and force full screen ads. We’ll push two updates per day because our unpaid interns are so agile. Bugs? Oh, no, we call those ‘micro disruptions’. They’re a feature but don’t cost extra! How much the license costs? Well, how much do you have? Yes, it’ll be that much.”

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I remember arguing with some nerd that this overpriced shit was not fucking worth it and my build based on old server parts I got from a local computer recycler was infinitely superior in every way

I wish I saved that post so I could reply with this link. I feel so validated. Never trust companies. It’s why I say you should never fuck with plex, even if it is a bit easier to deploy than Jellyfin.

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Yeah… Never had a specific “server” certified hardware and always repurpose my hold hardware stuff. Never failed me !!

However, there are some functions specific to NAS’ like low power and other stuff people mention but I already forgot.

IMO all this NAS and certified server stuff is good for Enterprise shit and the like… But for homelabbing it’s probably overkill and way to much overpriced for the little gain…

Except maybe for the ease of use and plug and play function? Each one it’s own I guess !

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There’s plenty of N100/N350 motherboards with 6 SATA ports on AliExpress, grab them while you can

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Do you happen to know about a decent solution for 8 SATA ports on a mini-ITX board?

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The only reason I even have “server” parts is because they were dirt cheap at the recycling center. Before I used this my rig was an old pc from a doctors office I worked at they were going to throw away from like 2009. It was awful spec wise but it did the job. My current build is overkill but I wanted to play with vms and local LLM stuff and the hardware was cheap, so why not?

low power is definitely something to consider though. That said there are some people that have made impressive builds out there. There are some low power builds on the unraid forums that use even less power than one of these things. It’s a bit more up front because it relies on some niche hardware but the power usage is so low it’s maybe worthwhile if you use it for years

I just fail to see the benefit of these. Ease of use for sure but assembling a pc is really not difficult and installing an OS is not hard either. And an os like unraid or truenas is pretty simple to use, they hold your hand a lot. Like I get that running Debian is something not everyone wants to do but then it’s like, just don’t do that then?

Frankly if you’re capable enough to configure the dockers you’d run on one of these, like plex or Jellyfin, I would think you could handle those things??

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Oh yeah sorry ! For the ease of use part I ment the NAS stuff which already comes bundled with all the necessary software to keep things easy but less customizable !

Yeah if you get IT enterprise hardware for free it’s kinda similar to repurposing, sooo that’s a great deal and lucky you !!!

But I would never put 1$ myself into specific server stuff ! Except if one day I want to contribute to the self-hosted/opensource community and host something like newpipe that needs to be publicly available.Then yeah, proper hardware and software stuff is mandatory !

Sorry if my comment came by rude, that wasn’t my purpose !

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