I did the whole distro chooser quiz but didnt help much.
Heres the things id like to hit
- avoid systemd
- stable
- Wayland support
- Minimal packages
- no immutable (seems like to much of a pain)
- full disk encryption but thats pretty standard nowdays.
Was going to go with devuan but the debian flavours dont have a stable with wayland yet. I was considering going with a testing or unstable build but would like to avoid headaches on a daily driver. Is testing/unstable got wayland and are they reliable enough? If so what do I go with.
Also hows the hardware comparability with framework i assume it wont be too bad to get set up.
- A stable distro may not support that new Hardware
- A distro without systemd may lack behind a lot, there are only a handful left, doing their thing
- Did you try โimmutableโ distros? They are awesome if you want the benefits.
Am upgrading from thinkpad to framework 16 with amd. Looking for distro reccommendations.
I would start looking at whatโs supported to begin with.
I did the whole distro chooser quiz but didnt help much.
FYI, it isnโt as helpful as you would hope and hasnโt been updated in quite a while. Donโt be too much bothered with the result. But thanks for sharing some tidbits from the quiz as it helps the community to better help you!
avoid systemd
Are you sure you want this?
stable
Does this refer to unchanging (for long periods of time except for security updates)? Or, instead, for being less inclined to break after an update?
Is testing/unstable got wayland?
I donโt recommend going for (Debianโs/Devuanโs) testing (branch) as it targets a peculiar niche that I fail to understand; e.g. it doesnโt receive the security backports like Stable does nor does it receive them as soon as Unstable/Sid does. Unstable/Sid could work, but I would definitely setup (GRUB-)Btrfs + Timeshift/Snapper to retain my sanity.
are they reliable enough?
Depends on how reliable you want them to be. OOTB, their reliability definitely ainโt great, though.
If so what do I go with.
Consider answering all questions found in this comment and weโll be better equipped to help you out with this.
Also hows the hardware comparability with framework i assume it wont be too bad to get set up.
Overall, itโs pretty good; epecially so on the supported distros.
Btw, you strike me as a (relatively) new user that doesnโt seem to have a good understanding on Linux yet. Is this correct?
I looked at supported and they got ubuntu supported so i figured debian (and its clones) shouldnt be too bad to set up.
I like sysvinit
As long as i dont need to use a bootable usb to give it back its kernal after failing to update and doesnt randomly crash then id consider that stable enough.
I recon ill go with devuan unstable.
Ive been daily driving arch for about 2 years now (i fuckibg sick of fixing shit i want stability again) had mint prior to that and use debian on my servers.
If youโve driven Arch before, have you looked at Artix?
Edit: Oh, you have trouble with stability then. So not artix
I donโt recommend going for (Debianโs/Devuanโs) testing (branch) as it targets a peculiar niche that I fail to understand; e.g. it doesnโt receive the security backports like Stable does nor does it receive them as soon as Unstable/Sid does. Unstable/Sid could work, but I would definitely setup (GRUB-)Btrfs + Timeshift/Snapper to retain my sanity.
From https://backports.debian.org/ :
Backports are packages taken from the next Debian release (called โtestingโ), adjusted and recompiled for usage on Debian stable
So by definition, security backports in stable are present in Testing in the form of regular packages, right?
Found on the same page you cited from (even same paragraph):
โBackports are packages taken from the next Debian release (called โtestingโ), adjusted and recompiled for usage on Debian stable. Because the package is also present in the next Debian release, you can easily upgrade your stable+backports system once the next Debian release comes out. (In a few cases, usually for security updates, backports are also created from the Debian unstable distribution.)โ
Sure, but even in those โfew casesโ Testing will get them soon.
I did read at some point that Testing may receive security updates later than stable, might be in those cases in which backports come straight from unstable.
Fedora
Iโm running Debian bookworm on my framework 16, I struggled a lot getting everything working properly so Iโm not sure I would recommend it just yet
Have you looked at MX Linux? I think it doesnโt use systemd. Itโs a pretty minimal install, too. NixOS can also likely be configured the way you want, though I donโt know much about how to set up your config file to achieve your specific goals.
Another option might be to use Fedora CoreOS or Universal Blue uCore and just rolling your own downstream distro.
Edit: got carried away, as those last three options are all immutable.
