20 points

Boo.

You’re off to a decent start Harris, don’t fuck this up by backing a genocidal Nazi regime.

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well. Lets wait till after they meet. She might surprise us.

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The only surprise I could accept is if she suplexes him through the resolute desk.

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I could see it.

I was thinking something like getting him deported to someplace part of the ICC.

she probably will be “diplomatic”, but I don’t think she’s nearly as much a simp as biden is.

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22 points

This is a test for her. Seeing how she meets and responds to a world leader who Americans have an extremely divided opinion about. It’s a tight rope walk.

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This is the only response I’m willing to accept from her

https://youtu.be/XPY5P0TaC4k?si=_Qd132KsayRl1AGk

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In my head canon he wasn’t even invited. He just heard Biden was out and now he thinks he’s gotta come here and do whatever combo of shmoozing and/or threatening it takes to make sure his genocidal gravy train keeps flowing

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Well, TBH, he’s meeting with Trump also.

A sauce: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/07/23/trump-netanyahu-meeting-dc/

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He’s speaking in front of Congress, he was literally invited by the majority of our government…

He shouldn’t be, but pretending he wasn’t isn’t helping. We should be focusing on replacing every politician that invited him, not pretending the problem doesn’t exist

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That’s why I said “In my head canon…” I know it’s not true, and I’m not pretending it is. It’s satire.

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People having ‘head canon’ for real world events is just delusion by any other name.

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7 points

genocidal gravy train

This is a great summary of what’s going on

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Netanyahu’s address will be presided over by Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chair Ben Cardin in Harris’ absence.

Harris’ meeting with Netanyahu is separate from his expected meeting with Democratic U.S. President Joe Biden who stepped aside as candidate for the 2024 elections and endorsed Harris, her aide said. Biden is recovering from COVID.

Politico reported that Netanyahu also requested an in-person meeting with Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump but the former president has yet to agree.

It’s fucking insane how little money it’s taken Israel to buy off our entire government.

He should be handed over for war crimes the second he sets foot on US soil, but there’s no chance of that happening

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The money is important, but it isn’t the most important part of the equation. The value of having a nearly 100% dependable ally in that region trumps almost every other possible concern from a political perspective.

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Clearly they aren’t dependable since they can’t be bothered to stop killing women and children.

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Dependable in the sense that they tend to draw fire from the people who would otherwise be attacking us directly. “Enemy of my enemy”.

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Not a great sign, if she’s going to go out of her way cozy up to him it’s back to Uncommitted for me. Certainly don’t want to, but I guess we’ll see if Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory with this.

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“She might meet a foreign leader who is doing bad things, so I’m not decided between her and Project 2025.”

Really?

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I won’t support pro-genocide candidates. Yes really.

She really should not be meeting with right-wing fascists.

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Yes but that’s the “things are bad (Harris), so might as well make them worse (Trump)” attitude.

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Do you know nothing about Project 2025? It will cause more genocide. Genocide in your country.

Do you want to see Latinos carted away and queer kids committing suicide after being forced into “conversion therapy?” Because that’s exactly what Trump will bring.

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Anything but voting for Harris would be supporting Trump, an even worse pro-genocide candidate. You can’t equate Harris, who’s calling for a ceasefire, with Trump, who gave Israel Jerusalem and is telling Israel to keep going with the genocide.

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Meeting with someone ≠ Endorsing them

World politics is about negotiation. I’d rather she tucked into the conflict and tried to improve the situation than ignoring it.

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“Genocide is bad, so I’m going to support the candidate who supports ultra genocide with extra genocide at home instead”

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I am just so relieved that most people seem capable of understanding nuance.

By all means figure out if you can somehow give us a better candidate. But when it’s time for you to actually do something real, remember to play the hand you have.

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You guys are just scrambling to throw stuff at the wall just to see what sticks, aren’t you? Nothing but F.U.D

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In her place, Trump would be lauding how great he thinks the US-Israeli alliance is and commit twice as many resources to Israel in the process. Acting like Harris is anywhere near as bad as Trump on the issue of Palestine is either being grossly naive or intentionally deceitful, while not voting for her just because she isn’t pro-Palestine enough is counter productive when Trump is far less so.

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Again, we haven’t seen if she is as bad as Trump yet. Biden is, we know that, and it’s a large part of what made him unelectable. If Harris picks up the genocidal mantle she’s inheriting that same unelectability as far as I’m concerned, it would be a politically stupid move.

We have to see now if Harris will take deliberate steps to distance herself from the genocide support of Biden. Meeting with Netanyahu is not a good indication, but it’s yet to be seen how it plays out.

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Ah, so you’re pro fascism and Trump. Got it.

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I’m anti-genocide. Biden’s policy on Gaza is fascism. It’s the same at its core as Project 2025 or any other far right agenda. He’s funding the slaughter of innocent human beings.

I’m not far-right, so I won’t support it. Hopefully Harris chooses not to as well.

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You’re not dumb and you’ve heard it a thousand times I’m sure, but you live in a country with FPtP voting and is therefore a two party system. You know that not voting or voting third party in the general election only benefits Trump. The ONLY chance of things getting better in Israel is if Kamala wins, even if she doesn’t do anything, because the alternative is things get worse. Those are facts.

Damn near everyone is anti-genoocide, but most of us realize the reality of the situation. Kamala may make it better over there, Trump will make it worse, and there is no third option. As mentioned there’s one option for your vote that isn’t pro Trump. Voting for Kamala is the best option for Israel regardless if you think she’s doing good enough for your beliefs.

If you disagree, tell me how you think any other vote will help Israel. If it’s purely a moral choice, explain how you think it’s morally better to turn your back on the problem knowing full well the facts of FPtP, vs voting for the best option that may make things better. The possibility of betterment is better than no possibility at all.

In the worst case scenarios, personally I would rather say, “I voted for Kamala hoping she would improve the situation in Israel which didn’t happen” instead of, “I voted third party / didn’t vote at all, and Trump made it worse in Israel”. At least in one situation, there’s a chance.

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Wow, seems like that crystal ball of yours is in excellent working order still. How do you keep it working so consistently for so long? Is it the rock polish?

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What crystal ball? “I guess we’ll see.” is fortune telling to you?

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we criticize the Republicans for being single issue voters, yet we’re doing this? come on. people’s lives are at risk here at home too.

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Genocide is not a “single issue”. It’s every issue. No, I will not “come on” and accept it as part of the party platform. If Dems can’t stop themselves supporting an active genocide they’re politically and morally useless.

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