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Japan is relying more and more on a shadow army of millions of imported foreign workers that is slowly changing its populace. Japan could see a right wing backlash to the changing demographics at some point as we’ve seen in Europe.

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Japan could see a right wing backlash to the changing demographics at some point as we’ve seen in Europe.

They’d need to import a lot more before that happens (it seems 5% of the population being visibly foreign is the cutoff), but otherwise all the pieces are already in place. If America doesn’t survive Trump democracy is gonna die isn’t it?

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Japan is very insular, especially around immigration policy, they don’t like foreigners. It’s the same thing going on in China right now. China is trying to encourage more births, but Hcol is basically the reason plus their one child policy has screwed the ratio of women in china

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Japan is very insular, especially around immigration policy, they don’t like foreigners.

True, but also there simply aren’t enough foreigners there yet for them to progress from the “damn foreigners grumble grumble” phase to the “We must deport those foreigners or they’ll Westernize/Islamize our children and end the Japanese race!” phase. I mean it’s gonna happen eventually, but we still have a bit of grumbling before they start calling it a crisis.

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“Shadow army”, you mean people, immigrants for low wage jobs in convenience stores and cleaners.

Hardly an organized “army” lol.

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It’s a metaphor, not “literal” army. And it is in the millions. Many are unseen as they come out when the streets are empty doing the garbage picking and cleaning, etc.

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Ah yes, the shadow army of cleaners. Nefarious and unseen.

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One also can’t even get a working visa to work some place like a cleaner or convenience store; those people are all on: student with parttime job permit; spouse/family/dependent; PR; and working holiday visas.

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Source? I live in Japan and have no idea what you’re referring to here. Japan already has its share of xenophobic fuckwits, particularly the old right-wing guys, but I don’t think people are generally trending that way. The one exception might be people living in places inundated with tourists who are tired of that aspect.

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They’re not saying that Japanese people are trending that way, but rather that they will inevitably go that way for the same reasons America did and Europe is. The reason it’s not happening yet is because Japan simply doesn’t have enough foreigners yet; the cutoff seems from Europe’s track record to be around 5%*. More than that and they start getting scapegoated for all sorts of problems.

*As seen in this map (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Europe#/media/File:Islam_in_Europe-2010.svg), percentage of obviously foreign people (in this case Muslims) and far-right politics are strongly correlated and other than Italy all European countries with a strong far right have more than 5% Muslims.

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There was a recent kurzgesagt video about this and it really is gonna be a huge problem

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Legalize weed, get more liberal, and allow some immigration and my useless ass would love to live there

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Yea no, stay in the US thanks

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Yes, Prime Minister

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They have to make it easier for them to have families, the men have to be taught to support the family more, and the salary man has to disappear. That’s my outside, doesn’t know that much, opinion.

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The salary man? What’s that?

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Traditional Japan work culture where you’re not allowed to go home until your boss goes home. Boss hates his family and will twiddle his thumbs until 10pm and then say you have to come out for drinks until 2am. If you don’t comply, your life will be made hell, and there will be a zero chance of career growth.

This type of culture coupled with shit economy has turbo dived Japanes population growth. There’s 10-million “abandoned” homes in Japan, IE old person died alone and you can buy a fully furnished home for $7-50k. Honestly, I’m look at Japan as a place to move and at some point they’re going to advertise to open the doors for immigration or completely revamp their work culture…or go extinct as a country.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_company_(Japan)

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How would one realistically buy a house, move to japan, and stay there for years tho?

Like visas and stuff

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To be fair not all companies are “black” in that sense. The salaryman isn’t dead yet, but AFAIK you can have a good-ish work-life balance in Japan nowadays. It’s not quite the complete revamp they need to survive the 21st century, but things are slowly getting better.

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They could fix this overnight, but that would require making a bunch of old men less comfortable.

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The first step is probably not thinking of it as a problem to be fixed.

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Old people dying in the streets instead of getting a dignified retirement in exchange for a lifetime of work is a problem.

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Are those the only two options? Unending human fuel being pushed into the fires of capitalism or old people dying on the streets? Literally nothing in between huh? Don’t think we could just have a less population and maybe a better distribution of resources?

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