For several years I’ve been using DuckDuckGo instead of Google Search, and I’ve been overall quite happy with the results. Only rarely had I to resort to Google search (!g).

During the last month or two, however, I’ve found myself using the !g switch and Google search more than half of the time. DuckDuckGo shows no or few results where Google shows more (and useful) ones.

Still I don’t want to give in. So:

  • Have you also experienced this worsening of DuckDuckGo?
  • Which other more privacy-respecting alternatives do you recommend?
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I’ll try qwant!

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Do they still pop up a modal dialog asking you to disable your ad-blocker? That was what killed Qwant for me.

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I only saw that briefly. I can’t remember if it went away on it’s own, or if I blocked it myself.

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I’ve been using this for about a month now and have been happy with it too

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+1, Qwant is awesome

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I haven’t really experienced a worsening of DDG, and this is a bit off topic, perhaps, but—

I have yet to find a better alternative to Google’s video search. Google Books also remains valuable in many ways, since it will give you different “search inside the book”-type search results than the Internet Archive will (and they also have some books that IA does not).

What’s annoying to me is that StartPage, which is supposed to have Google search results, and by and large does, does not give the same video results as Google (go ahead, try it). It would also be nice to have an Invidious or FreeTube type front end for Google Books, and I believe there used to be something like that, but not any longer.

Some Google products still have definite value, it’s just important that they derive no benefit from us using them.

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I remember reading that there was something “fishy” with Startpage, which is why I abandoned it quickly. But don’t remember where.

Luckily I don’t often search for videos, but I agree that it seems difficult to find good search alternatives there.

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This is awesome. Is there a DDG !bang for this? I would love to use it in place of !g for the few times I resort to !g.

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I use Startpage and I get decent results. I never google anymore except maps. What is wrong with them?

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It would be nice if Leta had tabs for images, videos, etc.

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Yes, though I think I also read it from other sources. But I want to read more and find out further news about those claims.

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I’ve tried other search engines any times. Despite the worsening google search somehow is still much better than alternatives.

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This shit right here!

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Tried using public instances, but 1/3 searches was failing. Found it unusable. That was like a year ago when I was looking for DDG alternatives.

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This is unfortunately the same type of experience I’ve had with SearXNG. 🙁

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I like SearXNG, you get all of all worlds

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I’ve only used searx[ng] for several years. searx.space is pretty recommended to look for searxng working instances, as well as the ones that you might prefer depending of the country of the instance and so for. Public searx but no searxng working instances are really uncommon now a days.

Every now and then your preferred instance becomes useless (whether google finds its way to block it, or to apply an aggressive rate limiter, or the instance gets unmaintained), so one needs to look for another one.

DDG doesn’t give bad results, but when I realized the majority of its results come from bing, meaning it’s mostly a metasearch as well with a few entries of its own (that might have varied from that time), I then started to only use searx, and then when searx working instances were really hard to find I moved to searxng, and I’m happy with those instances. Again, at times I need to move to a different instance, though I’ve been using the last one I chose for more than a year now…

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For me at least, searxng.world works. I just went to searx.space, opened loads of them in a list, and left the ones that weren’t blocked in my country. (the only ones left were searxng.world and two really specific local ones with alphabet soup names)

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Public instances need to fight against the giants, but running your own local version is easy if you learn to use Docker. It just takes around a hundred of megabytes of memory. I have been super happy with it.

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And for anyone who doesn’t know: SearX is pronounced “Search”, and it’s successor, SearXNG, is pronounced “Searching”.

(In many languages “x” signals a “ch” sound)

Note: But maybe don’t go around saying “Have you Searching’d it yet?”

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Trying it these past days and I’m impressed!

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Kagi is pretty amazing. You have to pay but the peace of mind is worth it for the respect of your privacy. FastGPT is a phenomenally helpful tool that I use multiple times per day. Kagi.com

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Thank you for the suggestion. I tried Kagi a couple of times, but it missed the useful results that DDG or Google were giving, so I dropped it.

It depends of course on what kinds of searches one typically needs. Probably there isn’t a universally best search engine.

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