I realize it won’t be like this forever, but while scrolling Lemmy I eventually come to a point when I start to see a lot of old posts and it’s a perfect signal that I’ve done more than enough scrolling for the day
I agree. Very much like Reddit in the early days.
Also, the level of civility and intellect in the comments is relatively high.
Also, the level of civility and intellect in the comments is relatively high.
Fuck you! No it isn’t you moron.
Wow! I want to upvote, downvote and report you at the same time. Kudos!
In the end all i did was leave this lousy comment
I’ve found more belligerent comments have started to crop up, and sure enough, most of the time the account is about 2 weeks old. I really hope lemmy doesn’t change with this latest influx from reddit.
Fwy, some apps allow for automatically applied icons to indicate such. I forget exactly which ones, but I know PieFed’s web UI does it. It’s very helpful imho.
PieFed also marks people who receive like 10x more downvotes than upvotes. That way you can still choose to read their content, but seeing that, decide how best to respond.
I’ve just started using Summit and they show accounts less than 30 days old. Really slick ui too.
I expect much bigger influxes. From at least a few dozen people with hundreds of accounts. Probably around the time of an election.
It does make me wonder what safeguards if any Lemmy has against such shittification. What system might work for that? Maybe if you had a way that users could flag other users as trolls or quality contributors, and those flags carry vastly more weight if the person flagging is themselves a quality contributor. That would perhaps create a stable community, not necessarily a good one but at least one which resists change, yet allows a way in for new people.
Yeah, there’s a lot more of that cropping up. Belligerence, backhanded insults. I can see it being legit on some of the comments but then there are other comments where there are people just going after people to feed their own agenda.
I found it was happening worse over on Lemmy world, I’ve blocked a few of their major communities, and just started contributing on smaller communities on smaller nodes.
Way more arguments on Lemmy seem to end with the two users stop down voting each other, and then basically concluding ‘that I see your point but still think you’re wrong because youre over emphasizing x or y’.
Way more arguments on Reddit just end with an endless loop of insulting and talking past each other.
I think the effect is probably like 30% selection bias of people coming to Lemmy more intentionally, and 70% lack of bots. Between paid influence campaigns, and Reddit’s own use of bots to juice engagement, my gut feel is that most of those endless arguments are either directly arguments with bots, or indirectly people who have grown so frustrated arguing with bots in other threads that they’re no longer capable of rational discussion.
Also, Reddit comment quality has nosedived in the past year or so. Like, wildly nosedived. It used to be that there would be at least one comment in the top comments that adds some more interesting context to the story, these days, I almost t never see that on Reddit, but frequently do on Lemmy.
The average age of a Redditor started to go down even several years ago, long before Rexodus, in large part as the platform changed things to encourage speaking even without bothering to read anything at all.
Thus I decided to leave Reddit regardless, and only fortuitously decided to come here. Some things simply are not worth the trouble.
the platform changed things to encourage speaking even without bothering to read anything at all.
How so? I don’t remember this.
Yeah, I agree.
On reddit it seems the remaining human commentators are those who have taken over the mannerisms of the bots and adjusted to talking to the bots.
And you always get stuck in these endless loops of hostile disagreement.
That’s just not how normal humans argue. Even on the internet.
Normal humans either agree to disagree or just give up. In both cases ending the conversation after all useful things have been said.
It is not “rational discourse” so much as “emotional vomit”, assuaging loneliness with robots.
The only ones who win that game are the investors in Reddit, who sell more advertisements by using the “engagement metrics” that such argumentation ramps up.
Normal, satisfied people stop talking eventually, which lowers the profit incentive so they can’t have that, now can they?
It’s like gambling but worse - it’s not mere dollars that can stop upon running out of them, but people’s time that gets bled away moment by moment, until all the other opportunities they could have been spent on are gone. Taking advantage of people’s mental illnesses, which they help foster in the first place.
Using a combination of top day, mark read on scroll, and hide read, I regularly reach the end of the internet, and am glad.
How do you do this? My main problem with Lemmy is that I always see the same posts
I’m using the Boost for Lemmy app on Android. My memory is that the Sync for Lemmy app also has the “mark read on scroll past” feature. I thought I read a discussion that implied that some web Uis for Lemmy also had this, but that’s not what I use and not what I know.
What client are you using to read Lemmy?
Asking into the void is there a way to do this on Voyager? Swapped from sync cause (far as I could tell) there’s still no mod features and the amount of “glide couldn’t grab this image” was frustrating, but haven’t found a way yet to hide posts you’ve seen. Like I know some links are going to be reposted multiple times, but much as I love tenforward I’ve been scrolling past the same gowron eyes memes the last few days on my feed (they’re great memes, but I can only see them so many times lol).
I’m confused, is it not on everyone’s settings for their default Lemmy profile?
“Show Read Posts” is a checkmark you can unclick if you want to hide them…
Yeah, I just sort by new. I see everything posted in my subscriptions, and can just be done for a while. It’s great. And early comments get more upvotes, heh.
I mute a ton of communities, and I really like quickly getting to the “end” of All. Then I’ve blocked some other dopamine sites, so I get bored and go play outside 🤣
You can also really feel that the algorithm doesn’t just blindly promote click/rage bait the way that reddit’s does.
It still gets promoted some times, but the front page isn’t constantly filled with it like Reddit’s is,.
