“There is no evidence of a large rise in suicides in young patients attending a gender identity clinic in London, an independent review has found.”

"Prof Appleby’s review concludes “the data do not support the claim”.

And he added that the way the issue had been discussed on social media was “insensitive, distressing and dangerous”.

“A Department of Health and Social Care spokesperson said decisions on children’s healthcare must follow the evidence at all times.”

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“We investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong.”

Mr Maugham said the review considered “current and former” Gender Identity Development Service patients, while his figures were directed to the larger group of “those on the waiting list”.

The DHSC has insisted that patients on waiting lists were included in the review as well.

They literally didn’t, from the review:

I have examined the figures provided by NHSE on deaths in each year between 2018-19 and 2023-24. They are based on an internal audit by the Tavistock of deaths among current and former GIDS patients

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“We only saw a small rise, so until statistically significant numbers of children kill themselves, the brutality will continue.”

Why is “suicide” the metric for healthcare to begin with? Imagine if dentists acted like this. “No one committed suicide from not receiving a root canal in the last 3 years, so we’ve determined them to be medically unnecessary.”

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It’s not used as a healthcare metric. This is just debunking reports that a healthcare policy was directly causing an “explosion” in suicides.

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Except they also say “The evidence on suicide risk in children and young people with gender dysphoria is generally poor.”

That’s not debunking. That’s denial of the problem.

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That’s not denial, it’s looking at the evidence.

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I have known plenty of young people who had a phase of self hatred who thought being trans can fix their problem. Unsurprisingly it didn’t. Thankfully many of them snapped out of it before they could get their hands on medication/surgery.

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My understanding is that puberty blockers just delay things, letting them work that out without making permanent changes in either direction?

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