78 points

Not to defend our shitty car-centric society but most places in the US aren’t so bad. I would guess that New York in particular presents more challenges for smooth ambulance traffic than almost anywhere else in the country due to its high traffic density and relatively narrow roads and streets. People likely want to move and can’t. Excluding bicycle issues, Americans are pretty good about observing traffic laws and knowing when to give way. (but yes, to a German person, American drivers probably seem like troglodytes)

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That’s fair, but this issue is solved in European cities, via mass transit lowering the number of cars on the road, ambulances being built smaller to fit down narrow passages, and wide bike lanes which ambulances use in emergencies. If anything, NY might be one of the cities most poised to implement all these, if it can just get its shit together.

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I believe this video is from before the congestion pricing in NYC. I wonder if and how much it has improved since.

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I’m in Manhattan this week, and have watched an ambulance slowly move down a street as cars struggled to get out of the way. Even with congestion pricing, there just isn’t much room on the narrow one-way streets.

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Does congestion pricing cause people to give way to ambulances? 🤣

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8 points

Not only that, in many places there are dedicated bus, and taxi (and sometimes tram) lanes which can also be used by emergency services.

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I live in East Asia, where public transport is given major funding and has high ridership. There is no law requiring people to move their cars for an ambulance and people just don’t bother. Ambulances routinely get stuck in traffic.

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Haha I like what you did there at the end

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Yep. Traffic gets the hell out of the way and stops immediately if there are emergency vehicles trying to get through where I live, even in the city.

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Not to defend our shitty car-centric society but most places in the US aren’t so bad.

+1. I’ve never seen this problem in Chicago. Most people pull over and stop until the ambulance has passed.

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50 points

Audio: Whoever needed it, they’re dead.
Subtitle: Whoever needed it, they’re okay.

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That’s why nobody drives in New York. Too much traffic.

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11 points

This seems paradoxical…

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They’re paraphrasing a Yogi Berra joke.

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I knew it from Futurama, but you learn something new every day!

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For anyone wondering, the Rettungsgasse (“rescue aisle”) is something we do on longer stretches of road whenever congestion happens, to allow ambulances to pass through as quickly as possible. Everyone on the right side of the road keeps to the right and everyone on the left keeps to the left, forming a roughly ambulance-sized gap in the middle. On multi-lane roads, it’s formed to the right of the left-most lane.

There’s also laws for it. You can get fined, if you hold up the ambulance, because you failed to form the Rettungsgasse, or if you have the audacity to drive down the Rettungsgasse to try to skip a traffic jam.

It’s not really a thing in cities like shown in the video, as we’d typically try to drive into side roads or onto parking spaces or the sidewalk to make room for the ambulance. The laws don’t apply there either.

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This is the law in both America and Canada, the issue is either just assholes deciding they are more important than the ambulance ,or a lack of places to move.

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And also we just let people die instead of enforcing the rules.

Fuck drivers

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1 point

Most of province 20 over the limit seems fine and you got a really mean cop if you got a ticket for it, even though we know speed, tailgating, agressive passing all increases the risk for a collision that tax payers ultimately pay for.

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The law in my part of the U.S. specifically says to pull to the right to let an ambulance pass, but as far as I know, it doesn’t give you the right to drive on the sidewalk (so as you say, nothing to account for a lack of places to move).

What our German friend there is describing is a convention to inform drivers whether they should pull to the right or to the left depending on lane position, which is really smart and which I’ve never heard of. If there is such a system here, it needs a marketing campaign, because it only works if everyone knows about it and clearly we’re not there yet.

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The ambulance should havet the right to trash the cars of they don’t move out of the way. That would maybe get people to move.

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Put a giant cowcatcher in front of it

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While that sounds nice, it also risks the ambulance being rendered immobile, or the equipment/patients being thrown around.

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Maybe not ramming them at full speed. But just enough to put a dent in their car.

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I looked it up, and the Rettungsgasse isn’t a thing in Germany on city streets, only on highways (Autobahnen) and roads between settlements (Außerortsstraßen). (TIL it’s a thing in Germany on roads between settlements because here in Austria it is only a thing on highways.)

There’s still an obligation to move out of the way for emergency vehicles, but there are situations where that simply isn’t possible. There are sometimes dense urban traffic situations similar to the one in the video in Germany too.

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You simply move out of the way. Nothing more to it.

I’ve never seen a siren stuck in traffic in my life here in Belgium

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Same here. I’m German. I mean, yeah, maybe for a few seconds or something. Until people fucking moved out of the way.

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Neither have I in America.

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5 points

Same in Sweden.

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Living in Germany, I beg to differ.

In the situation shown every vehicle would have to move somewhere to let the ambulance pass.

Even if that means sidewalks or crossing red lights. Had to do so myself on occasion.

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That’s not a dense urban situation at all. There was plenty of space on the road in the video. Usually the cars drive a bit on the pedestrian walkway or just really tight to the left/right end and it’s enough. Would also have been plenty sufficient on the road in the video

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