Organizations that do not consider themselves Oracle customers, but who use Java, can expect a call from the Big Red in the next three to nine months, according to a software licensing specialist.

House of Brick, which has spent years advising clients on how to manage their commercial arrangements with Oracle, said it had noticed an uptick in organizations seeking advice after being contacted by the tech giant about their Java use.

“Even if you are not an Oracle customer, they are tracking product downloads and matching the IP addresses to your organization. Oracle has deployed a whole team of people in India that are contacting organizations worldwide with claims of non-compliant Java SE usage,” the company said in a blog, referring to the runtime environment.

While most Oracle and Java users have become aware of the changes, those who have never dealt with Oracle for their applications, database or middleware software might be new to the arrangement.

“They don’t have a relationship with Oracle. But Oracle has tracked Java SE downloads to their company. And then Oracle approached them saying ‘We see that you’ve been downloading our Java SE product, it requires a licence.’ This might be an email coming from a person that has an audit or similar title in their signature,” said Nathan Biggs, House of Brick CEO.

For example, Oracle is likely to ask for the installation date and ask whether the customer also deploys on VMware.

But Oracle will be leading towards an “offer” to overlook earlier unlicensed software if they agree to sign up to the new subscription model, Biggs said.

Organizations should be careful before they take up the offer, he said. Users with legacy Oracle agreements face more than 100 percent — even 1,000 percent — cost increases when moving to the new terms. Bills going from tens of thousands of dollars to more than a million have been confirmed by multiple licensing specialists.

He said Oracle is entitled to ask for backdated payments for people already using Java since the paid-for deal was announced. But whether they should be forced to adopted the 2023 per employee arrangement is a moot point.

To start with, Oracle will limit the back-payment to three years. But it will also try to charge users under the Universal pricing arrangement introduced in January 2023.

“This is absurd because the universal pricing has only been around for a year. We always then push back on Oracle,” he said.

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But Oracle will be leading towards an “offer” to overlook earlier unlicensed software if they agree to sign up to the new subscription model, Biggs said.

So…Oracle is just adopting the mafia mentality to accomplish this? Yeesh.

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Oracle is just adopting the mafia mentality

What do you mean “just”? This has always been Oracle.

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Oracle doing Oracle things.

Never forget what their name’s acronym really stands for…

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please tell

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“One Rich Asshole Called Larry”, which is a common joke about the company’s founder Larry Ellison.

Or

"One Real Asshole Called...", which is another derogatory joke about the company and its leadership.
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There’s not even an e after the l

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Someone beat me to the punch about the true meaning of Oracle, so I’ll instead link this wonderful video about why you shouldn’t make the mistake of anthropomorphizing Larry Ellison: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc&t=1981s

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A good response would be “We have blocked your networks at the firewall and are in the process of eliminating any of your software that has infected our network.”

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I received an email about this one year ago from one of the universities technicians/systems maintainer to let them know if we were running non-openjdk java runtimes because they received a million-dollar “warning” email. Greedy corps are even going after universities.

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Wowwww that’s truly fucked up.

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Java is an okay format owned by the devil. When two devices running Java connect via wifi, One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison expects the air in-between them to be properly licensed. If the free software movement had not been founded to say “fuck printers,” it would have sprung into being in order to say “fuck Oracle.”

If businesses spring up to advise customers how to handle your billing and legal departments, maybe you shouldn’t be a company anymore.

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