Yeah… you don’t see feminists complaining about fair representation in sanitation industries.

Same goes for the draft.

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Feminism has often spoken out against the draft, recently and historically. And the majority of feminist scholars and groups are anti-war and anti-military in general. Stop trying to push this on feminism. Being anti-feminist isn’t the way to tackle men’s issues.

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It depends on the feminist, but feminism itself is actually pretty egalitarian

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Where are you seeing feminism and feminists advocating for mandatory militarily service for women?

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Why should they?

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Men’s shelters are needed. Men are also survivors of domestic abuse.

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This is a classic case of the Patriarchy / Toxic Masculinity hurting men too.

For the government officials to fund a Men’s shelter would mean admitting that men can have moments of weakness, which the men in power do not like.

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I am a victim of abuse. We had a kid too. The court handed my daughter to my abuser when she made false claims and I was arrested. All charges were dropped but the custody battle was delayed and made wildly more complex than it needed to be by the mother. Two months ago I was finally awarded sole custody. It has been so hard. To say male abuse victims have an uphill battle is an understatement.

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Stay strong, brother. One day when your child has grown up they’ll understand and be grateful that you fought so hard.

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Misandry is sadly extremely widespread and often not even recognized as a problem: Erin Pizzey who invented modern women’s shelters quickly found out that women were just as capable of being violent to their partners and logically tried to start men’s shelters as well.

What she had not expected was that instead with the support that she previously got with women’s shelters, the same did not happen with men’s shelters; instead she received insane amounts of hate, victim-blaming and death-threats from radical feminists. She had to repeatedly flee her countries because of material safety-concerns as a result of that.

In some way the peak I encountered of this kind of hate was some Fedi-site that had a rule banning misandry (good!), because it also harms trans people. Now the second part is very much true and as a trans girl I agree that it does and that that is bad, but that should not be the primary argument for why it is bad. That’s like saying anti-judaism is bad, because some Jews are white or saying misogyny is bad, because it also affects trans men or saying anti-black racism is bad, because it might affect white people with a strong tan: The statement is true and the secondary victim group fully preserves protection, but by making that statement you betray an incredibly bigoted mindset that doesn’t even respect the primary target-group enough to care about them at all.

There is a lot feminism that really just amounts to men-hating and that is why I do not use that label for myself. I believe in equivalent treatment and rights and so should everyone;

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I think there are a lot of people who practice “White Feminism” which is mainly white women wanting to keep the existing power structures, but just replace the men with women and do nothing to actually address the cause of systemic inequality which hurt many marginalized women. Like all movements, the actual ideology and the movement in praxis are quite different and people are more motivated by a perceived vengeance and indignation than actually trying to get people onboard and change perspectives. This is why you get TERFs and the like.

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That’s awful. He deserves to be remembered. Thanks for posting. Are there shelters in place now in Canada?

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Yeah, there is for example this in Hamilton. Men’s shelter Hamilton There are a few in Toronto and others in bigger cities.

People can find the closest to them for example on this site: Canadian centre for men and families

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I believe there is only one in the whole country

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No, this is not true. Why are you writing this? That’s the opposite of helping people.

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Watch an episode of 90 Day Fiance if you have a hard time imagining the woman being the abuser.

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Absolutely, since women generally are the weaker of the two they don’t use violence/physical force a lot of the time, their weapon of choice is emotional abuse.

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Violence and physical abuse is always also emotional abuse.

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