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“Gamers Nexus, on the other hand, thinks the issue is more deep rooted and originates from a foundry-level fault.”

  • The GN piece makes it very clear that this claim is not definitely true but is a line of inquiry.
  • Intel statement does not definitely exclude this hypothesis, the flawed CPU might need the lower voltage to work around the flaw.
  • The obvious question this article does not address is what will be the performance hit for the patched parts?

That’s a bit annoying to see GN so grossly misquoted when Steve spends half the run time of the video explaining that they are not sure of anything at this point.

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39 points

Intel confirmed on reddit that oxidation did impact some chips.

More than one thing can be wrong at the same time, so everybody can be right!

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15 points

They admitted that there was an oxidation defect and they haven’t started a recall or even listed serial numbers?

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It’s a lot cheaper to say “if you think you’re affected contact us” than it is to proactively reach out with a recall.

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Steve does go on, and on, and on, and on… Quite challenging, if you have a tight deadline.

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He’s just really thorough. They have a text-based website too if you prefer that format for reviews, but they don’t always have time to make text articles of their investigative pieces and news reports.

https://gamersnexus.net/

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6 points

For most of their videos you can just play it in the background.

But that said, why are you watching any youtube videos if you have a “tight deadline”?

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“We’re going to undervolt them. You’re stuck with the damage done, and you won’t have luck overclocking or getting as much performance from our chips.”

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Not only that, but I don’t think stability issues like this would’ve been known around or shortly after launch, so Intel (likely unknowingly) got to mislead consumers and reviewers into thinking that their 13th/14th HEDT processors were close to competitive with AMD’s, when they were anything but. It’s never been more apparent how stagnant Intel truly has become, and that’s already been a trope for years.

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38 points

Nice one Intel. My next computer certainly will not contain an Intel CPU.

I wish someone would start making desktop motherboards with socketed RISC-V and ARM CPUs.

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17 points

Why I chose AMD in 2019.

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risc v wouldn’t be worth much right now but snapdragon I could see getting socketed at some point.

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That would be great for a server, but 1.7GHz is a bit slow for a desktop.

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Up to 128 cores. Not meant for gaming, but it cranks at server tasks, compiling & coding tasks, etc.

There’s a windows dev kit (ARM) that I think is 3ghz: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/windows-dev-kit-2023

But bleeding edge stuff from MS means likely driver issues, and this isn’t something you’ll throw a dedicated graphics card in.

Still, feels like the tide is changing away from Intel. I too was looking at “ARM for Desktop” options a couple weeks back.

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It’s not like risc-v is any faster at the moment.

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2 points

My first thought went to the Milk-V Pioneer since it has mATX form factor, but both products are priced way higher than your average desktop.

https://milkv.io/pioneer

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not to mention its a dev kit. at this point not everything will run\be problem free.

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Ampere is pretty slow compared to AMD and Intel.

https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-xeon-6700e-ampere-altra/6

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AMD stock should have gone through the roof on this news.

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Fyi. AMD has gone down 13% this week. Intel went up today.

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20 points

No clue why. AMD is killing it right now, and they’re just slaughtering Intel’s positions in the market for the next number of years.

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I think insiders already knew about this problem. It would explain why the stock has been dropping over the past few months.

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3 points

Everyone’s excited for Battle mage

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This is actually good for Intel, if they think that they can actually fix the problem in microcode.

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They can keep the problem from starting, but any processors that are already impacted need to be RMA’d

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Go with amd for now.

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