153 points

Her advice to anyone planning to travel to the US is simply not to go. “First, because of the danger of what could happen to you. And, secondly, do you really want to give your money to this country right now?”

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I’m having real difficulty convincing my mother not to go to the US. She doesn’t really pay much attention to the news and although she knows some things are going on I find it very hard to get her to understand how serious it is.

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13 points

this is well within the territory where you shouldn’t feel bad about pulling out all the stops and making a personal emotional appeal, outright beg her not to go, tell her you’re terrified of losing your mom

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3 points

There’s a significant amount of Americans that are trying to get out. After they close the boarders in they start closing them going out.

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There were other tourists, too. Bana, from Romania, was on holiday in Canada and visited Peace Arch park, on the international boundary between the US and Canada. She told Becky she had been taking selfies with her husband when a US border official told her they had strayed into American territory without the right visa and took her into custody.

So they’re bringing people into the country to arrest them. Genius. Those detention centers must be rolling in cash right now and DOGE is ignoring it.

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Isn’t peace arch park not supposed to be excluded from immigration?

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8 points

Couldn’t you just run back over the border?

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9 points

If you don’t mind being shot for trying to escape.

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4 points

Well I hope Canada has beefed up their security at the park to prevent this from ever happing again. Otherwise ICE just might start riding into Canada collecting people to keep their numbers up.

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4 points

That’s what I was thinking. Would depend where you are, but just leg it

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47 points

Speaking as an American, everyone who can needs to stay the fuck out until we can get some semblance of having our shit together.

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21 points

My entire extended family is in America. They voted for Trump, we will never be visiting them again most likely. America is not safe.

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I used to take semi-regular business trips to the US, but I think from this point I will try to move everything online. Aside from it not being safe for me in other ways, all it would take is someone with a suspicion that my work on the trip is “illegal” to send me to prison :/

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I want to know who narced on her.

She was just doing chores at houses in exchange for boarding. She wasn’t paid. She just did chores.

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That would qualify as work according to the US gov. Because by doing these chores, you are potentially causing someone to not need to pay a nanny or whatever. Be careful how you define work – you don’t need to be directly paid.

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By throwing your rubbish in a bin whilst in the USA, you are causing the city to not need to pay a litter picker to collect and throw your rubbish into a bin.

I know I’m just being silly, and I know you’re not wrong, I’m just sayin. There’s a thousand ways one could look at almost any action and suggest ways in which it is “work” if we define it as causing someone else to not have to do a job or get paid for something.

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You’re not being silly, and it is wrong. Just because ICE is bending over backwards to drag people into this shit doesn’t make it right, and you shouldn’t fall for their gaslighting and normalization. It’s wrong, and you should feel confident in calling out how fucking absurd this shit is.

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It’s not work because you’re depriving someone of the job, it’s work because you are doing a task for a benefit. It’s just a non cash benefit.

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9 points

She narced on herself to Canada, then America overheard.

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She was doing work for a benefit. It wasn’t cash, but it had value. If that wasn’t work, and therefore not taxable, everyone would just switch to getting paid in services and benefits that aren’t cash.

She was treated extremely harshly but she was working illegally. There are lots of digital nomads that do similar. They work in places where they are staying on a tourist visa, it’s illegal. I run a small business. When I am away on holidays overseas, my staff need to be paid. I log in and pay them while away. Technically that is in breach of my visa for most countries, I’d say.

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Yea, no. This is only considered ‘work’ if you’re a physics teacher.

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10 points

You’re an idiot.

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9 points

That’s the most stupid thing I’ve ever heard in my life.

You absolutely do not need to do anything to pay your staff it’s just a standing order bank transaction.

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Lol, you clearly have never done payroll. Payslips need to be generated timesheets entered and payments need to be authorized. Not all staff work full time or work on a fixed schedule, so set and forget a standing bank order is not viable. I would imagine that’s the case for most companies and businesses that employ hourly paid employees. Salried positions are generally in offices but even then they can vary.

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I feel like only one person calling you stupid isn’t enough, so I’d like to add that this is one of the stupidest collections of words I have ever read.

I genuinely hope you make statements like this in your daily life. After all, the world needs humor.

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hey leave them alone. stupidity has nothing to do with it. are they right or wrong? sorry, but the facts matter here and I’m not trusting popular opinion to figure out immigration law

this place feels more like reddit lately

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It’s sad to see factual comments like yours getting downvoted, because some just don’t want to hear this truth.

It doesn’t mean you support these kind of things happening, just that you understand the reasons they’re doing this shit…

And @ all the haters, get a life… you can disagree with the current rules, and how they’re enforced, but you can’t deny reality.

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Yep, ive applied for visas in many countries and loved in multiple, long term. You follow the rules or risk being deported. I’ve friends that were deported, and friends that took advantage of amnesties when they were available.

I know there are au pair visas in some countries to allow similar work with few restrictions and payment in kind. However, I think they mainly include child care.

What all those who think she shouldn’t have to follow the vis rules aren’t aware of is that she’s likely undercutting those that followed the rules and also that human trafficking takes advantage of people in arrangements like these and use your visa breach as leverage. Less commonly for people from countries like the UK, but it can happen to anyone.

It’s fine to hate on the oppressive state of America at the moment but those in breach of their visa conditions are not the best martyrs for a cause. The ones unfairly prosecuted for non visa breaches, like ethnicity and sexual orientation are what we need to fight.

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That’s not work? That’s common courtesy! You stay at someones house so you help out.

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If there is a contract it’s work.

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If they are a friend. If you’re doing so as a trade, then it’s not a courtesy, it’s a transaction.

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POS bootlicker

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Best to get a lobotomy before going to the US that way they won’t be able to accuse you of trying to work illegally while you’re there. It also has the benefit that you’ll finally be on the same mental level as Trump and his supporters.

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