I’m not from the US, so I’m curious why Americans still wants him back. I always see him as a bad mouthed guy and was worse when he lost in 2020. But feel free to change my mind. This question is also for non-trump supporters who can think of one thing (if you can) on why he’s good for the top position.

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You are a multimillionaire that has plenty of options on leaving if things get rough, but in the interim you can look forward to tax breaks and more lax controls/protections over whatever industry you may be involved in.

As for the rest of them, he’s flying the right colored flag and that’s about it.

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the american right thrives on propaganda and boy howdy do they have a lot of it.

Immigrants? simultaneously lazy welfare moochers and will steal all jobs forever

women? sluts with no self control that must abstain themselves always, except for you of course

queer people? pedophile groomers that hate you specifically

black people? Racism was solved 100 years ago according to these white guys! now they’re claiming that it’s systemic?!

Any and all political opponents? Corrupt. Monetarily? Characterally? Spiritually? yes.

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A lot of people are very religious and oppose abortion. And that is literally the only issue they care about. Trump stacked the Supreme Court and got abortion made illegal in many states. They love him for that.

Some people think he’s stronger on the economy. They just think “look at all this inflation we’ve had under Biden! It wasn’t like this when Trump was in control.” Of course they can’t think far enough to realize that perhaps a global pandemic caused this inflation and there was little that Biden could have done to stop it.

I think those are the big two reasons. But then there is the propaganda. People are made to believe that crime is running rampant despite the fact that violent crime is actually relatively low compared to in the past. Illegal immigrants are vilified as criminals who are bringing drugs and crime into the country while taking advantage of government benefits. The propaganda says that Democrats are the cause of these problems, and Trump is the solution. Tons of people fall for it. And Democrats are really bad at counter-propaganda.

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My aunt is religious and votes mainly on abortion. She’s voted republican for years. She didn’t vote last time Trump was the nominee because she couldn’t stand him and couldn’t vote democrat because abortion.

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They just think “look at all this inflation we’ve had under Biden! It wasn’t like this when Trump was in control.” Of course they can’t think far enough to realize that perhaps a global pandemic caused this inflation and there was little that Biden could have done to stop it.

Which is particularly painful because Trump overheated the economy before the global pandemic even got off the ground. It’s a sort of miracle things aren’t worse than they are in that regard.

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Having formerly been a rural Republican, there is no good reason to vote Trump. I mean that from the bottom of my heart. People vote for him because they’re some mixture of uninformed, misinformed, psychotic, or psychopathic. The broader GOP party is fully culpable, too.

Let’s explore some profiles:

17-year-old “lel kek” 4chan/8chan nihilist troll who just wants to act like a dumbass and think Trump is so cooolll.

Grandpa who never left his home town. Never been on an airplane. Watches fox news 24/7.

Your crazy uncle who listens to right wing radio while commuting to work and has a major temper problem, loves his compensatory guns that give him a sense of agency in his sad pathetic life. He loves to blame immigrants for his own problems.

The racist sexist meth head or anyone overly exposed to lead.

The good Christian church goer wrapped around abortion and contrary to the pillar of individual freedom is desperately trying to arbitrate their own sense of morality on others.

The gullible uninformed coworker that doesn’t tune into politics all that much but they’re a crowd pleaser and all his coworkers talk about is how great Trump is, so must be true. They’re not educated all that much and so struggle to use critical-thinking to discern truth from falsehoods.

The grifting pillow salesmen who recognized dumb people are easily grifted so starts feeding the choir and selling them merchandise in one form or another. Bannon fits this.

Deadbeats who love fake it til you make it and see that it worked for Trump. They love that their lifelong habits of bullying are validated by him and so feel empowered.

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The people who want to elect DT are either extremists, cult followers, uninformed / misinformed, or corporate or political anarchists. There is no one of sound or informed mind who would ever vote for him. He has proven to be bad for the people, the economy, the nation, and the world.

We live in a time where instant access to ideas dilutes and twists reality. The majority of people don’t really know what they’re voting for nor do they really care what the ramifications of their decisions mean.

I live in a “blue” east coast city. I read news from generally unbiased sources and I engage with others in forums like this. I can’t tell you the number of people I’ve come across, mostly but not exclusively from outside my city, who have unwavering opinions about something they’ve proven to know very little about (this is not exclusive to MAGA or republicans). I had a conversation with someone I’ve known most my life about Dr. Fauci. He thought he should be sent to prison. When I asked why he thought that he didn’t really have a coherent response and ended with, “well I guess I don’t really pay that close attention to the news”.

Today’s politics is more similar to a sporting event than it is about the democratic process. It’s more about engaging with your team’s fans on social media than it is understanding the philosophies and mechanisms of government.

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That’s not what political anarchism is.

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follow up with what it is

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The people who want to elect DT are either extremists, cult followers, uninformed / misinformed, or corporate or political anarchists.

Or they just, I don’t know, like his particular promises, such as a good economy and war with Palestine.

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Exactly. Promises that he’s verifiably uninterested in putting any effort towards because: see above.

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