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Compared to ICE? Yes, they are.

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Your statement then should be: EVs are better than combustion engine cars. Period. Your first statement is clearly wrong, as EVs are not good for the environment. Just better then combustion engines. Far from good, further away from perfect.

Don’t think you do something good when you buy an EV instead of a bike - if you have the choice.

Making this choice possible should be our main concern, not EVs vs. combustion cars. They make us as lazy as your statement is.

Edit: to the Downvoters: where is my statement wrong?

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Bikes are made from metal that is mined from the ground and the tires are rubber that is produced from potrolium. All of that is bad for the environment. Almost all shoes are also made from rubber, and leather that comes from cows that produce methane thats bad for the environment, so you better be walking everywhere either barefoot or in handmade wooden clogs.

If you really wanna play by those rules you are JUST as bad as the guy you replied to

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I am fully aware of the end of this line of thoughts, and it is not a good end. And I decided for myself that you have to artificially draw the line at some point.

My line is between the difference of a two tonne car with a huge fucking battery and a bicycle. Where is yours?

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Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.

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No need to answer to my post, you won’t change my mind with your Poesiealbum-Zitat.

Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.

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From what I’ve seen: EVs normally produce about half the carbon of regular cars, mostly from making the batteries. Switching fully to EVs would therefore reduce worldwide emissions by about 8%, compared to 16% by just getting rid of cars completely. EVs also don’t fix the societal problems of cars including sprawl and all of its related problems.

An ideal future would have no internal combustion engines and only EVs. But there would be a lot fewer of them, and preferably in a much smaller form factor.

As an unrelated side note, when I read ‘ICE’, the first thing that came to mind was the train. I’ve never even been to Germany…

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Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.

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