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“2x above WHO limits” means “within EU limits”. WHO recommends 5 micrograms, which is pretty unrealistic considering the population density of urban areas today. Unless we fully move off CO2 based transportation

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Unless we fully move off CO2 based transportation

Which is no problem at all in urban areas.

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Guess what, WHO is way more abouth health

So I would rather go in that direction

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I agree, as I said I would love to move off carbon based transport. But the 5 microgram goal is realistically not achievable with the current state of transportation and the current political goalposts of electrification

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So we should change our current technological and political ways.

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Unless we fully move off CO2 based transportation

My understanding is that electric cars produce similar amounts of particulate pollution compared to other cars, because while they lack an internal combustion engine, they are also heavier and that increased the amount of particulates produced through tire wear and braking.

In other words, cars as a whole are the problem. Walking, cycling, streetcars and subways are the solution.

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While it is true that all cars hurt the environment (Creating a 1t box out of rare and complex materials and moving it along with the person to every place simply does) the thing with particle pollution is a myth by the anti-climate-change-mitigation movement.

Just think of the fact that they use regenerative breaking most of the time. Almost no wear on the breaks. And the battery weight is largely offset by drive train and engine.

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/electric-cars/running/do-electric-vehicles-produce-more-tyre-and-brake-pollution-than-petrol-and/

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The very article you linked shows how the real-world tire wear of electric vehicles is substantially higher than the same models using IC engines. Whether it is due to higher acceleration or higher weight is not explained.

I am not opposed to electric cars. I am opposed to all cars and to the idea that electric cars are somehow a panacea, ignoring their externalities like traffic noise, air pollution and danger to other road users.

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That would be even better. But knowing how lazy/convenient people are, it will never happen

(I don’t own a car myself and am doing just fine)

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I think a lot of the convenience just has to do with what’s availible and what’s commonly done. There are cities where public transport is completely the norm (or cycling etc. are extremely common) but it has to be convenient, cheap, and availible.

In other words, the gov’t has to invest first.

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