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This is the first time Joost got to do such a big event, and then he got filmed without his consent, indicating such multiple times. This happened while he was under time pressure, so he made a “threatening movement” towards the woman holding the camera. I feel like a punishment other than disqualification would’ve been better, this felt disproportionate.

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Is there any publicly released footage of the incident? I only read about it in the news and if the reaction is justified imo depends on what he exactly did to her.

Taking part in such an event (sadly) often leads to a certain loss of privacy which one should be aware of. On the other hand pointing the camera on him even after him indicating he doesn’t want to requires a certain amount of ignorance.

But then again, I cannot really judge the situation and need to leave that to the investigators.

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Nope, the Dutch broadcaster Avrotros said what happened as described above, the EBU says the story from the photographer or whatever is different, but has failed to tell us what that difference actually is

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Mhm I see. It’s just a really shitty situation and that it happened so shortly before the main event makes it even worse. Like, if you disqualify him when he didn’t do anything wrong, you face backlash and when he did in fact assault her and you still let him perform, you face backlash too.

I just hope the investigation doesn’t get brushed under the carpet and that we get a better understanding of what actually happened.

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They made it sound like he assaulted someone ar first but it does seem to have been just a (offensive) gesture after repeatedly requesting they leave him alone.

Disproportionate is an understatement especially considering the already tense climate.

Song would have gotten good points for sure aswell.

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I don’t think so considering Windows95man did poorly

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