For those who’re currently looking for a nice new device: shown are (from Top Left to Right):

  • NovaCustom (NL)
  • Star Labs (UK)
  • System76 (US)
  • Juno Computers (US)
  • UbuntuShop (BE)
  • Slimbook (ES)
  • Tuxedo Computers (DE)
  • Entroware (UK)
  • MiniFree (UK)
  • Nitrokey (DE)
  • Laptops with Linux (NL)
  • Purism (US)

Not mentioned but also selling Ready-to-use Linux computer:

  • Dell
  • Lenovo
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They’re all shitty clevo laptops

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That’s not true! Some of them are Tongfang devices. 🥴

It’s true those companies have to overwhelmingly work with ODMs, doesn’t necessarily make the devices shitty though.

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6 points

Starlabs design their own.

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They’re also insanely expensive

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Because they design their own, yes. That’s how economy of scale works.

To benefit from it you either need to sell an absurd amount of stuff or buy from those who do.

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I beg to differ, i have bought clevo w650sj back in the day when it was produced, it works great to this day, just added ssd and ram and it works great with opensuse tumbleweed and windows 11 dualboot, i use windows in dual boot because i need adobe and flashing software for obscure chinese phones and flashing software to revive bricked usb sticks

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Well, the quality of most laptops fell enough in the last decade, that the clevos are decent now. Also, fuck thinkpad part rejection, I’m definitely not buying a (edit: new) TP.

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would you mind elaborating on the part rejection? i am not sure what is meant by that

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6 points

ThinkPads refuse to work with non-Lenovo batteries.

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