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7 days ago

Point is that 3000 cycles is more than enough time to find or make a replacement even if society doesn’t rebuild.

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MangoCats@feddit.it

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7 days ago

more than enough time to find or make a replacement even if society doesn’t rebuild.

If you’re living somewhere with enough easy food, water and shelter that you’re not spending all your time just handling that. Making groceries takes a lot of time and effort.

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7 days ago

The average hunter gatherer only worked for about 3-6 hours a day. They had more free time than we do.

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MangoCats@feddit.it

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7 days ago

The average hunter gatherer had food forests planted by their ancestors, wild herds of meat for the taking and a lifetime of knowledge transfer and physical training in living that lifestyle.

You may be adaptable and intelligent and have wikipedia by your side to tell you what to do, but Wikipedia is written by people living in today’s society, not that reality. 90% of today’s people will suffer horribly getting in the physical and mental condition required to do a hunter-gatherer daily routine in 6 hours or less.

But not you, you’re awesome and you get it done in 3, so that leaves you time to go mine copper ore, smelt it into wire and other such things - in reality, no, for the duration of your remaining life scavenging the wreckage will be more productive than DIY from the earth, but scavenging requires a lot of travel and even e-cars won’t be getting around very well.

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7 days ago

90% of people would die within the first three months because they don’t know how to cook and we have a three day supply rule in stores relying on just-in-time delivery.

If you make it past the first 90 you probably have seeds in the ground to get you to the next 90. We don’t just inherit the environment, we shape it. We can start growing our own food within weeks, not reliant on ancestors

But let’s get back to the topic. 3000 charge cycles, your number, is a lot. All that time can be used to make hard copies of essential information. You can learn how to salvage wire and build new energy sources. An average 2100²ft empty house has almost 200 pounds of copper wire in the walls. 3000 cycles to learn.

But thanks for telling me who I am and what skills I already have.

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MangoCats@feddit.it

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6 days ago

We can start growing our own food within weeks, not reliant on ancestors

Having watched a neighbor “farming commune” with 12-15 adults on 80 acres who had nothing better to do than play Gilligan’s Island building their huts and trying to grow their own food, for two years with full internet access, enough money for tools and fertilizers, electric pumps for irrigation, they seemed to shy away from using the tractor in the field to work the crops but they had a working tractor… after two years they were only growing about half of their calories.

In other words, In my opinion a “real prepper” already has a “Victory Garden” going and producing enough food that they can easily scale it up to meet 200% of their calorie needs, some to store for hard times, some to barter. If you haven’t actually done that, you’re probably in for a surprise when the raccoons eat your crops in the middle of the night.

All that time can be used to make hard copies of essential information.

If you have a working printer, toner, paper… and don’t forget: a laser printer uses more than10x as much power as an efficient computer. A couple of years would be required just to figure out what you think might be essential information, and after the printer dies you’ll find new essential things based on changes in your situation.

Having said all that, yeah, I’ve got the big offline copy of Wikipedia setup with a reader on a laptop…

You can learn how to salvage wire and build new energy sources. An average 2100²ft empty house has almost 200 pounds of copper wire in the walls. 3000 cycles to learn.

This will the the real resource people use for probably 50+ years after TSHTF - scavenging from what’s left over. As you say: 90%+ dead by next Spring, that leaves a LOT of empty houses to scavenge. Food won’t be there, but wire in the walls, lumber to burn for heat, glass, water pipes, there will be used mattresses available for decades.

thanks for telling me who I am and what skills I already have.

Speaking in general about the 10% who do survive the first three months, the skills required to make it through that chaos are very different from the sustained scavenger/farmer phase.

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6 days ago

I’m only going to focus on one part because it shows the disconnect between you and I.

If you have a working printer, toner, paper…

Who said anything about a printer? I said hard copy. Not printout. Write it down. Carve it into rock or shape it in clay. 3000 cycles and you keep limiting yourself. That 200 pounds of copper wire could be pounded flat and marked with a sharp tool to create a long lasting hard copy. So many options for a hard copy and you defaulted to the one option we can’t even get to work when everything is working.

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