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11 points

8 days ago

Honestly Hamas is what struck the match for Israel to start killing.

May I interest you in literally all of Palestinian history? What did you want them to do? Sit on their asses as they’re starved and the West bank is ethnically cleansed by the Nazis?

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-2 points

7 days ago

Accept one of the many peace deals for two states that were offered. 1935, 1947, 1948, 1967, 2000, 2008. This list is incomplete.

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4 points

7 days ago

For the first three: Why the hell did they have to give up their land to people who explicitly wanted to create an apartheid state?

For the rest: Pick any one of those and I’ll explain in detail why it was another farce. You’ll also have to explain what 1967 peace deal there was for Palestinians to accept.

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bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works

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-1 points

7 days ago

Under UN partition plan nobody would have needed to move. Everybody would stay where they live already. Jewish immigration would only go to one of the states. It was always planned with a minority of Jews in the Arab state and a minority of Arabs in the Jewish state. So no giving up land that was privately owned. All land acquired by Zionists until 1948 was legally purchased.

Why? To avoid war.

Between 1948 and 1967 Palestinians could have accepted Israel’s existence and declared a Palestinian state in the non occupied West Bank and Gaza.

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3 points

7 days ago

Everybody would stay where they live already. Jewish immigration would only go to one of the states. It was always planned with a minority of Jews in the Arab state and a minority of Arabs in the Jewish state. So no giving up land that was privately owned. All land acquired by Zionists until 1948 was legally purchased.

Are you aware of what Zionists did in the Nakba? Are you aware of why they committed the Nakba? Zionists wanted a Jewish state with an overwhelmingly Jewish majority so they could maintain the facade of a Jewish democratic state. Ethnic cleansing was simply the solution to that “problem”. There’s no world in which Palestinians would be allowed to etay peacefully in their land because they’d never vote for Zionists. Also look at the shit they did after they won the war and the shit they keep doing now. Are these the actions of people that were ever going to respect private land ownership?

We must expel Arabs and take their place.

-Ben Gurion, 1937.

Zionists could’ve accepted the Palestinian proposal of a mutli-ethnic democracy spanning all of Palestine, which in theory should’ve posed no issue, but they didn’t because it wouldn’t be a Jewish-dominated apartheid state.

Between 1948 and 1967 Palestinians could have accepted Israel’s existence and declared a Palestinian state in the non occupied West Bank and Gaza.

They were occupied—by neighboring Arab states. And either way that’s not a peace deal. Did you have something concrete in mind or were you just lying?

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bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works

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7 days ago

20% of Israeli citizens are Arabs today, with full rights.

Look up what the Arab leaders said at the time.

Zionists could’ve accepted the Palestinian proposal of a mutli-ethnic democracy spanning all of Palestine

What offer are you talking about?

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4 points

7 days ago

20% of Israeli citizens are Arabs today, with full rights.

And is 80% Jews not an overwhelming majority? Again, Zionists committed a whole ethnic cleansing campaign to get the Palestinian proportion of the population that low, and they did not in fact have full rights until 1967. Everything the Palestinian and Arab side feared would happen did.

What offer are you talking about?

In its debates, the UN divided its member States into two subcommittees: one to address options for partition and a second to address all other options. The Second Subcommittee, which included all the Arab and Muslim States members, issued a long report arguing that partition was illegal according to the terms of the Mandate and proposing a unitary democratic state that would protect rights of all citizens equally.

-Wikipedia

Apparently it was an Arab proposal rather than a Palestinian one, so my bad there. Still, it was an option that was being talked about. And speaking of which, stop referring to Palestinians as Arabs. There are north of 300 million Arabs only about 10 million of which are Palestinian.

Edit: You also didn’t respond to my Ben Gurion quote. This is the George Washington of Israel and he said “We must expel Arabs and take their place”, in 1937.

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