The teens claimed CBP targeted them because they hadn’t booked hotels for their entire stay in Hawaii.

“They found it suspicious that we hadn’t fully booked our accommodations for the entire five weeks in Hawaii,” Pohl said. “We wanted to travel spontaneously. Just like we had done in Thailand and New Zealand.”

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I don’t get it. Why would anyone still travel to the US without being forced to?

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There’s a significant amount of the US population who still don’t realise how bad things are, you really expect everyone outside the US to be any better?

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I assure you, everyone outside of the US knows how bad the US is… the US is the laughing stock of the world right now. We get daily reminders how shit it is, how shit the economy is, how many mass shootings there were today. The world is fascinated by it, sometimes bored.

In this case with the young travellers, they have probably had the holiday booked for ages. Some people just think it wouldn’t happen to them. These sorts of checks would seem random anyway. These sorts of things appear on near every episode of Border Patrol (in Australia) where someone is being sent home because of lack of funds to sustain their length of stay etc…

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Ah yes, the hive mind of all non US citizens sharing the same knowledge.

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I would guess we as outsiders think it’s worse than it is, hearing only the bad stuff. We’re not hearing about great new sales at bed bath and beyond or whatever, we’re only hearing about the heavy handed deportations and human rights violations. Which is obviously bad but its easy to confuse “probably not as bad as it sounds” with “probably not actually that bad”.

I don’t think I’m communicating the point i was trying to make very well but whatever

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Ok… so why do they still travel to the us? Do they know how bad things are but are just stupid?

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I assure you, most don’t. Message boards don’t contain mist people

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tariffs hasnt hit the shelves yet for most people, so they are still ignorant to the situation. also they dont think rfk jrs, autism database will affect them yet.

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I wouldn’t go to USA even if you pay me. To be “mistakenly” deported to El Salvador and then they fucking “don’t know” how to get you out. Fuck no.

I used to say this about 3rd world countries to avoid them, now USA is on that list. Imagine USA being that bad. Well, it is that bad now. When it was under Biden, I wouldn’t even think about it. With this orange baboon, no fucking chance you see me go to USA.

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Even before, having to be treated like cattle in their border checks for hours? No thank you.

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Read the article - they clearly don’t read the news, and had no idea that other Germans had already been detained.

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like didn’t Germany issue a travel warning?

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It was explicitly not a travel warning (“don’t go there”) but a note to be aware that an ESTA does not guarantee entry to the US. Because our authorities are lame and still want to avoid looking like they’re somehow opposed to anything the US does.

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That’s actually both lame and stupid considering that getting detained by ICE is almost a guarantee

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They might have booked the trip before it was clear it was going to be so bad, and I doubt you can get your money back on a ticket for something like that. They probably rolled the dice and hoped for the best. It’s always been a roulette of whether you’d get a ‘good’ border patrol agent or some guy with a chip on his shoulder. It’s just that the latter feels more empowered now and there’s nobody keeping them in check.

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People travel to China because there is nice stuff to see and great food to try. While US doesn’t have the great food they have the nice stuff to see and are still way better than China.

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and are still way better than China

Oh man, I have news for you. As a UK/Australian citizen I would genuinely feel much more at ease travelling to China tomorrow than the US.

That is not a recent change either.

The US has a very scary reputation worldwide for its psychotic police force and guns everywhere.

I have been to China before, just as a no-fuss tourist. I detected no edge, and had a fun time.

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Ngl right now id rather travel to China. If I dont do anything particularly dumb it looks good for them right now to have normal tourism working, particularly when the US is being this shit.

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While US doesn’t have the great food

That’s just ignorant. There’s plenty of absolutely fantastic food in the U.S.

I have no idea why anyone would visit us now, but if you manage to get past the fascist scum, there are plenty of amazing places to eat.

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They were also going to Hawaii specifically. Now I’m German and have never set foot in any US state but I’d imagine Hawaii as a tropical island group would have its own local cuisine that can’t be half-bad (if you ignore the lack of beer), right?

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I’d visit China before I visited the US right now.

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