When did Bush, Obama, Biden create a famine killing millions of their own citizens?
When did they force farmers to stop farming and become steel workers?
When did they destroy all birds eating crops, unleashing a plague of locusts causing yet another famine?
When did they open a gulag system to imprison millions of people?
Where is trump in this image?
Upvote for the trump point, im with you on this one Other questions are meaningless here imo, just because X did not commit the crimes Y did, does not mean they should be treated differently if they did crimes of their own
(Still better voting blue than voting red though, fuck trump)
Absolutely. Politicians murder people. That is disgusting. We should hold our elected leaders to a much higher standard. Bush invasions, Obamas drone strikes, Vietnam war, the list goes on
Horrific crimes. Unacceptable crimes. Criminal.
BUT We should be careful drawing parallels from literal murdering dictators (Stalin, Mao, the Kims) who have body counts in the hundreds of millions (In total across the dictators shown in the image).
If you add up all the deaths from american presidents - this is question I was getting at. The reason I have asked the list of questions.
Is it comparable?
The question "is it comparable " always kinda triggers me because the answer is always yes.
Comparing does not mean saying X and Y are the same, nor are equal. It means evaluating how much X and Y are similar or different on various point. Like “Taylor Swift is a human and so is Julius Caesar. But Taylor Swift is alive, and Julius Caesar is not”. This is comparing, according to what I know of the term. So in theory, everything is comparable : when we say that something is not comparable, we mean that there is a difference on a specific point that should obfuscate all common traits we can find. In our case, it seems to be the death toll.
First I’m hoping you are in full support of Palestina and that deprecate Israel (different subject but if you value the death toll that much in political analysis, this would necessarily lead to this, which is fine by me)
Now on the subject of USA death toll, counting is kinda hard. Should we take into account the strategically kinda useless atomic bombs dropped at the end of the war? Should we take into account every war and massacre caused indirectly by the CIA? Should we take into account death caused by American weapons? Should we take into account death caused by capitalism (though obviously China “communist” dictature helped there too, so maybe this one would complicate things)?
I’m profoundly anti-state, so as much anti west imperialism than anti east imperialism, and maybe this is a bias for me. But to my eyes, this is comparable (not the same, sure, but comparable, even if it is to conclude that communist dictators were more cruals and usa more sneaky)
Still vote for them if you need though, just important to know who they are than blindfolding imo
Oh of course it’s all about “their own citizens”.
Murdering millions brown people and destroying their countries infrastructure is totally fine because we are the Ubermensch right?
I was wondering what creative new goalpost libs would come up with today they never disappoint. At least you’re more honest about your racism.
