Israel parliament votes to label UN relief agency a terror organisation(www.middleeastmonitor.com)

posted 4 months ago

The Israeli parliament gave preliminary approval on Monday to a bill that declares the main United Nations relief organisation for Palestinians a terrorist organisation and proposes to sever relations with the body, Reuters reports.

The vote against the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian Refugees (UNRWA) is the latest step in an Israeli push against the Agency, which Israeli leaders have accused of collaborating with the Hamas Movement in Gaza.

Israel has said hundreds of UNRWA staff are members of terrorist groups, including Hamas and Islamic Jihad, but has yet to provide evidence to a UN-appointed review.

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filister@lemmy.world

8 points

4 months ago

Let me ask you using your own rhetoric: “Have you wondered why there is no food in Gaza but there is in Tel Aviv?”. Real mystery!

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kamenoko@sh.itjust.works

-6 points

4 months ago

The aid comes through Egypt, ask the Egyptians and whatever arm of Hamas steals it and resells it to normal Palestinians?

A lot of aid was found in the tunnels Hamas forced children to construct instead of hospitals and schools and whatnot.

Netanyahu isn’t the answer either, but labelling an entire people as genocidal colonisers is a stretch. Also Sephardic Jews exist.

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WanderingVentra@lemm.ee

4 points

4 months ago

Oh ya, I’m sure Israel cares a lot about Palestinian hospitals and schools 🙄

How many of those are left now after Israel has bombed them all?

Also, it’s not Hamas blocking or stealing the aid…

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kamenoko@sh.itjust.works

-1 points

4 months ago

Which ones, the ones Hamas were using as staging/headquarters areas, or the weapons depots Hamas placed near schools and hospitals that blew up?

There’s no winners in war, but please stop pretending that Hamas is a rational actor in this conflict.

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WanderingVentra@lemm.ee

4 points

4 months ago

One, that doesn’t excuse blowing up schools and hospitals, even if it was true. It makes them way worse than Hamas in every single way. Israel bombing schools, hospitals, and relief agencies isn’t some sort of own when Gaza has been left with no running medical system and Israel is still doing war crimes and a genocide. If I was the President, I wouldn’t sign off in bombing your neighborhood if a relative of yours did a crime, but then I’m not a genocidal maniac. If I was held hostage and someone blew me up, I’d be way more mad at them than the hostage taker. It’s just common sense.

Two, none of that that IDF propaganda has been proven to be true for the places they’ve blown up in the latest conflict. They stage little photo ops but none of it that I can find has been independently verified, and often it comes out laughably untrue, ruining their credibility further.

Three, it’s not a war, it’s an apartheid ethnostate occupying territory, doing ethnic cleansing, taking land, and trying to oppress and kill all the indigenous people through genocide over 70 years; and people trying to resist that. Some of those people are terrible, but that’s still what it is. The colonizers are the aggressors, the cause of this, any way you slice it.

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6 points

4 months ago

Last time I checked all the entry points to Gaza were controlled by IDF, so perhaps you should change your narrative. And how many entry points did they open. The reality is that Israel can do everything to alleviate the humanitarian situation in Gaza, by opening enough border crossings, and ensuring that sufficient humanitarian aid is entering the enclave but they consciously decided not to. So stop shifting the blame.

Perhaps you could also try to justify the humanitarian aid looting, stealing, destroying by Israeli people, or the many humanitarian aid workers who lost their lives during this war, etc.

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kamenoko@sh.itjust.works

-1 points

4 months ago

So the IDF controls the border between Gaza and Egypt? You should let Egypt know their border isn’t sovereign anymore.

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gnuhaut@lemmy.ml

5 points

4 months ago

Yes they do. Even if they didn’t that excuses nothing about what Israel is doing.

And I guess by your Zionist logic no country has any sovereignty if anybody but themselves controls both sides of the border, which checks out since that’s also how Israel seems to think borders work.

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kamenoko@sh.itjust.works

-3 points

4 months ago

So Sephardic Jews exist, not all of them were displaced by the Romans. So your reckless use of the term “Zionist” actually erases one of the oldest continuously existing “western” cultures we have. Greeks? Come and gone, Babylonian rule, sure no problem. Romans? Pretty shitty but whatever. And on and on for the better part of 3000 years.

But do go on about colonialism in literally the oldest confirmed region of human settlement we have outside Eastern Africa.

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gnuhaut@lemmy.ml

4 points

4 months ago

Wait do you reply to everyone using the term Zionist with that? Because that’s some random tangent if I’ve ever seen one, triggered by a single word. Good derailing tactic though, you completely changed the subject.

I’m not even sure what your point is. Are you confused about what Zionism is? Because that’s funny for a Zionist to be confused about. It means you support the existence of a Jewish-supremacist state, and it’s a 19th century nationalist idea from Europe. So whatever you’re on about is irrelevant. I’m calling you a Zionist, since you clearly support Israel or you wouldn’t be taking the time to spread incorrect bullshit in defense of the IDF here.

Maybe you’re confused about my comment. Let me explain. You said:

So the IDF controls the border between Gaza and Egypt? You should let Egypt know their border isn’t sovereign anymore.

Egypt controls Egypt’s side of the border. Israel controls the Gaza side, what with them occupying it. Since that should be pretty obvious, it sounds like you think Egypt, in order to be sovereign, needs to control both sides the border, i.e. invade Gaza.

Which is funny to me, because that obviously defeats the whole purpose of a border. So I’m imaging you as a person who thinks the whole point of a border is that both sides should be controlled by the same state, since that’s how Israel does it, and you being a Zionist, you think that’s the normal way a border works. So “Zionist logic”. This is a funny thought, a person so brainwashed they don’t understand that borders are not like a checkpoint between Israel and the West Bank. There, you made me explain the joke.

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