The two progressive lawmakers have addressed massive crowds in solidly red states including Idaho and Utah in recent days, as party of the national Fighting Oligarchy Tour.

A survey taken by Harvard’s Center for American Political Studies and Harris between April 9-10 found that 72% of Democratic voters supported politicians like Sanders (I-Vt.) and Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), “who are calling on Democrats to adopt a more aggressive stance towards Trump and his administration and ‘fight harder’,” rather than leaders who are willing to “compromise” with President Donald Trump.

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Kamala didn’t lose by being “Too woke”, she lost by saying “Maybe the Right can have a little fascism, ya know, as a treat?”

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This is why I want to see AOC as a candidate and NOT Harris. We need a candidate who is less, “reaching across the aisle” and more “boots on necks.”

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America doesn’t have a good track record for young, popular, progressive presidents.

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This is just wrong. Go look at what swayed voters. The fact is, she never broke from Biden.

  • The border was a shit show.
  • The stock market isn’t the economy. Egg prices matter (it’s ridiculous but true for voters, and yes, I know it was bird flu related)
  • People trust R’s more when it comes to the economy
  • Many voters see Democrats as intolerable over educated snobs… That’s how they address ‘the deplorables’.
  • She ran on a platform that speaks TO DEMOCRATS and not the greater population.

Centrist is not evil, it’s necessary to win elections. How many maps do you need to see to figure out you need to win some red districts? Support the fringe but run on a platform that speaks to the middle. Or… keep doing what your doing and never hold more than a minor majority again.

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People trust R’s more when it comes to the economy

I hate that you’re right about this. I just saw an article yesterday that human intelligence actually is declining, and this is some of the strongest evidence. We truly live in the dumbest timeline.

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The GOP are already working out how to blame the incoming great depression on Biden

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Centrist is not evil, it’s necessary to win elections

Oh really? Who is president again? Who won the popular vote? Between Harris and Trump, which was more “centrist”?

Your logic is sound, but the model your working from is completely out of touch with how voters and elections work.

First of all, the left to right spectrum is just one dimension of voter preference. Another, and currently more dominant, dimension is populist to establishment. What Democrats call “centrist” is really “establishment”, and American voters hate the establishment.

Voters also like leaders with conviction. Centrist Democrats cave on everything. After four years of attacking Trump’s boarder policy, Democrats flipped almost entirely. After four years attacking Trump on LGBT rights, Democrats abandoned the issue entirely. Not only does that signal weakness to disengaged voters, it also destroys trust between the party and it’s base. The base might show up on election day, but they aren’t going to want to canvass or do all the other volunteer work that Democratic campaigns depend on.

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My model is based on what won the last election.

  • The border
  • Prices at the grocery store. It’s ridiculous but it is what it is.

You make a good point. There are many factors at play, but if Democrats think centrist is establishment then we need to change that because your right, that won’t win anything

Your examples of caving… Attacking Trumps border policy - but… Biden was president?! And Democrats did nothing to fix the problem. Yes, border control is a problem. We needed a leader and got nothing.

LGBTQ rights. I’m sorry to have to say this, but that’s not going to win you an election. Democrats (and me personally) can continue to support LGBTQ rights, but you can’t make it one of your primary platform.

Look at it this way… You need a sales pitch for purple and red districts that speaks on their issues. And go there and sell it!

  • Live and let live policies for the people
  • Do a better job of advertising your successes fighting for workers rights and pay.

…and so on.

Hell, watch Fox news for a few hours a day, take a shower, then build your plan to beat the Republicans on their own turf.

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People shouldn’t trust R’s any further than they can throw then.

Anyway while I don’t agree that the border was a shit show, yes I do agree that Neo Liberals are snobs who fail to understand that no the stock market is NOT the economy.

You have some points but ultimately I find you misguided. After all Trump was about as centered as the leaning tower of Piza.

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American economy depends on immigrants for many reasons. Migrant workers are vital for food production. Immigrants keep America’s birth rate at a healthy level. This is very important for the long term health of the economy. Native born are far more likely to commit crime than immigrants. This is a fact and lots of data supports it. Economy was vibrant and healthy until Trump came back to office. This year was supposed to be a growing economy. Now a few months after Trump returned, the economy is headed for recession, inflation will rise due to tariffs, and the stock market which holds all of our retirement assets plummeted. The economy has done its best under Democrats. Republicans are viewed as predominantly white Christian racists and bigots that want to take America back to the 1800s. They continue efforts to suppress voting to take advantage of the very undemocratic electoral college and Senate.

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