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What would you use instead?

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Something that gets built on my machine and pushed up to the site and doesn’t allow third party code to execute on the backend.

It really depends on what the website is.

If you have a use case, I can be more detailed.

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How about a basic Squarespace business website?

I looked at a bunch of options before and Wordpress seemed like one of the most promising: https://lemmy.world/post/12989654

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Cheap, easy, good.

Pick two. This is how most things in life are.

Personally, I’m a fan of static sites. But, being a web developer myself, setting up a simple form isn’t a big deal.

If dynamic content is required and you’re not a developer, you are at a crossroads. You can host your own Wordpress and get hacked eventually, or pay a cloud service like squarespace or wix, etc. but you’re at the mercy of price increases and a la carte features.

To be fair to Wordpress, they’ve come a long way. The core product isn’t horrible. However, they have no way to control 3rd party code, and that’s where all the malicious stuff comes from.

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Wordpress does a lot of things. You need to specify which things you want to do in order to narrow down a replacement. For example:

  • static site? - Hugo, Jekyll, etc - just generates regular HTML
  • personal cloud? - NextCloud/OwnCloud
  • ecommerce? - consider nopCommerce or OpenCard

The more you can narrow your requirements, the easier it will be to find a secure solution.

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static site? - Hugo, Jekyll, etc - just generates regular HTML

These are either vastly more limited, or they require you to be able to code.

ecommerce? - consider nopCommerce or OpenCard

I’ve never heard of these, but I have seen people say that if you want to do ecommerce you should only use Shopify, because even small differences can result in people not purchasing your products.

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Yes, Jekyll and Hugo are vastly more limited, that’s the point. There’s no dynamic content, you just write in Markdown (the same thing Lemmy uses), pick a theme, and you’re good to go. No need to code anything, just a couple config files and Markdown.

Shopify is fine if you want something hosted. But since we were talking about WordPress, I assumed self-hosting was a desired quality. All of the platforms I mentioned are self-hosted, open source, and at least one from each category is compatible with PHP-only hosting providers, just like WordPress.

If we’re optimizing for easy, Squarespace should be on the table for static websites as well. I assumed we were talking about direct replacements for WordPress, not hosted alternatives.

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