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Love the guy, but he also misses over that warframe has monetizion that beats the pants off of all of the others.

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Hey, at least it’s not P2W… right?

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You can buy weapons and prime frames, so I guess it depends on your definition of “win” but I’d argue that yes, technically it does. The larger issue of WF however are the layers of FOMO they have that turn the entire game into a job / chore that you have to attend daily, which is ultimately why I left it, even though the core gameplay itself is definitely fun. Frankly why I probably won’t play their other game either because it is almost certainly going to follow the same live service formula as WF.

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It would be nice if games didn’t maliciously try to put hooks into players at every turn. But you can learn to balance it.

I have a Dojo with just my group of friends. We build it out with just what we need to progress. We play for like a month every few years, when the itch hits.

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I agree with most of the stuff you’ve said expect the FOMO bit - there are three very specific items that are never coming back for obvious reasons, which are irrelevant to the overall story and hardly affect anyone’s enjoyment of the game. Every other item has eventually come back.

Edit: on a second read, you mentioned the game is P2W. That’s definitely a way to say you’ve not played the game, so now I’m angry I spent half a minute writing my comment.

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FOMO is damn near gone from Warframe now, aside from Baro. I’ve been playing for over 8 years.

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It arguably isn’t anymore, although it looks like it is. Yes, you can buy prime frames and weapons, but can’t buy the mods or arcanes directly from the game to outfit them. Even then, prime weapons on their own are not the best in the game by a long shot, and a prime warframe does not guarantee it being “meta”.

The weapons that are the best are locked behind story quests, and even once you unlock one of those vendors, only one of them that you can buy with platinum is any good.

They were considering adding a destiny style story skip, but when they asked for feedback it was so negative they immediately relented.

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you can buy prime frames and weapons, but can’t buy the mods or arcanes directly from the game to outfit them.

How is this not the opposite of a pay to win mechanic? Either you play the game to find the mod or find someone to buy the mod from.

An even cooler thing is operator progress, whereby no amount of paying can take you through.

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It helps that it’s not really pvp focused or competetively co-op.

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