From the Article:
“If you think we should do it let’s go. I just hate bailing Europe out again,” Vance replied. Hegseth agreed that “I fully share your loathing of European free-loading. It’s PATHETIC.” But, he added, “we are the only ones on the planet (on our side of the ledger) who can do this.”
Miller, the Trump confidant, effectively ended the conversation by saying that the president had been clear. “Green light, but we soon make clear to Egypt and Europe what we expect in return.”
Edit: The texts are released to public
It’s Europeans fault too. For too long we followed the same line with USA on the middle east crisis, and many have no problem with the genocide that is on the work there. The neighbourhood of Europe (and now even part of it) is unstable from poverty and war, and we were fine with that.
Most of the issues really have been created by Europe. Jewish settlement was supported by the British for a long time. Not creating a Kurdish state was also a massive mistake, which has a good chance of leading to a genocide in Syria right now. Sudan was drawn up by the Brits and that mess has been in civil war for ages. Not to mention Germany with the Holocaust, forcing millions of Jews to the Palastine.
That is not to say the US is perfect, but especially the UK and France really created a lot of the fault lines.
The UK didn’t screw anything up, drawing the borders in such a way as to leave entire regions unstable in the long term was the entire point. (Which to be clear is more fucked up)
Colonial attitudes never really went away. Not gonna play the victim here - we’re not innocent, and yeah, the U.S. screwed us over. But in the last 30-35 years, we’ve had plenty of time to fix things and create stability. But nope, war and stealing resources make more money for the powers than peace ever could.
Now everyone’s low-key prepping for WW3. Not just Europe’s military spending, but the creepiest part? People are kinda accepting in their guts that it’s gonna happen by 2030.
There are no friends between countries. Only allies and benefits. You don’t shoot your legs for an ally. Help is another thing. We were supposed to be allies, but the USA überall is their new motto.
Fucking up Libya, destroying Yugoslavia, maintaining a chaos in Palestine - Israel, help invade Iraq with lies, cut ties with Russia and let Ukraine to get invaded are not things you do even for friends.
Everyone has a moral obligation to decline immoral orders let alone immoral requests. “Just following orders” doesn’t cut it.
@Reddfugee42 Who said anything about that? The world isn’t black & white you know? As much as it would simplify things, life isn’t simple and never will be. Good things were done during that alliance as well as bad things. I was just pointing out who started it.
Yes, you could blame us for standing by and watching them do it and sometimes even helping, but that’s what you do when your (back then) friend asks you for help.
If you help your friend kill millions of people and keep a region where hundreds of millions live because “a friend asked you for help” then guess what? You fucking deserve the consequences.
Article 5 proved to be a bit of a trap card, because that’s the reason Europe was dragged into the post 9/11 middle eastern wars, but I guess European NATO countries could’ve just ignored it or whatever.
