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I don’t think they were going to kill him. I think their play was to bring him off-site “for his safety” so he couldn’t certify the election, at most a kidnapping.

The whole thing was too noncommittal by the big players in case things went to shit, which it did. They didn’t have the balls to plan out an assassination of the VP.

It might have worked if they had the balls to do that, and other things.

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Gallows says they wanted to kill him

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The angry mob wanted to kill him, not the orchestrators that would have pull with the USSS. Do you think they were going to drive him out into the mob to the world’s shittiest gallows?

If it ever came out that people in the Trump administration actively participated in a well-defined plot to kill Pence, they would fry. That’s why they sicced the mob on the capital to commit spontaneous violence. Difficult if not impossible to prove conspiracy, and the people getting jail time would be the red hat morons, not the people in charge. Again, they (the orchestrators) were half-hearted cowards that were more concerned with saving themselves if it failed than doing anything to make sure it succeeded, and for this moment in time we should be thankful for that.

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They didn’t want to kill him, they just sent an angry mob after him. What the angry mod decided to do, that’s on them.

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There’s no telling what mob mentality would do. Some were chanting “hang Mike Pence” and had gallows erected in front of the Capitol. It wasn’t going to be Trump who would have tied the noose, but a crazy trump cult member would have probably done it.

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at most a kidnapping.

Right but what then? You can’t let him go then, or they’ll face a kidnapping / attempted murder etc charge. He knew they were going to lock him up so they could admit the false electors and complete the coup. They’d have to kill him.

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It was organized over twitter, “big players” were not involved. Hell, Trump himself was only interested in showing up because he likes being on stage in front of people. There was no plan, no goal. It was the political equivalent of an angry sports riot.

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