Discord was already succumbing to enshitification. Now with their intention to be owned by Wall Street, that trajectory will certainly accelerate at warp speed once the change of hands happens.

Anyone already get ahead of this and find a solid alternative?

Right now I’m on the fence between Element for Matrix, and Revolt. Both seem to have their pros and cons and I can’t find a clear “winner”.

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An alternative would need screen share, just voip is not enough any more.

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The problem is that performant screenshare (to multiple users) more or less requires infrastructure. That requires money, and it’s impossible to compete on price with services that have the VC-enshitification model.

You can get around this in a few ways, but they’re all tradeoffs that are in some way or other worse than discord.

  • P2P - sacrifice latency, reliability
  • direct multi-stream - sacrifice PC performance and/or bitrate
  • paid infrastructure - sacrifice money
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I think P2P is still the way to go. Sure it’s not perfect, but it’s simpler and by it’s very nature doesn’t require the infrastructure we know will be a problem.

Plus, don’t forget screen sharing in discord isn’t very good as is (720p30) if you’re not a paid user.

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What if you had OBS create a “camera” of your screen, and then use that through video chat?

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Ah, the good old “screenshare not working on wayland” workaround!

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honestly that isnthe only thing that stopd me from going all in on teamspeak/mumble

i just need a screen sharing solution (not necessarily built into those tools)

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Most of the discords I’m on never use screen share for anything.

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All the ones I’m on, around 30, it’s the only thing it’s used for.

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TeamSpeak recently added screen share to their TS6 beta, however it currently only works on official servers provided by TeamSpeak; they have not yet released TS6 server software, only the client. To my understanding, they are thankfully still planning on releasing it though.

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Damn TS3 was still kinda wet behind the ears and maybe even still in beta last time I played with it. I only used it for one group and I cut ties with them.

I never even used it, I only know TS2 and it’s purplish, super basic ugly interface. (If anyone even remembers that- would’ve been back in mid to late 00s)

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