we appear to be the first to write up the outrage coherently too. much thanks to the illustrious @self

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I’m also sick of hearing about Swiss privacy laws. Their intelligence service got busted covering for a US and German spy front operation in Switzerland. If it happened once, I promise it has happened before and since.

Edit for those who can’t click: a front company in Switzerland sold fake encrypted communications services around the world for years, possibly decades, with the assistance of Swiss intelligence agencies.

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it’s as if swiss privacy laws are only useful for big time, pre-crypto, old school money laundering

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“Swiss privacy” for online services is a bit like “Swiss made” for expensive watches - a marketing term.

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