I get it, but I disagree. I don’t it’s about voting, I think it affects voting.
I’d rather fix the poor problem than allow voter fraud.
The fees for everything we need government services for, like getting a document is outrageous. Why the he’ll do we pay taxes to fund government agencies local/state/etc and then still pay fees?
That’s double taxation. I think that’s the real fight on poor people. That document fee is over some people’s hourly wage, but yet it’s required.
That’s about like having to be in debt in order to build credit. It all serves to take money from working class to wealthy.
You are stuck on the fees.
Again-
You need time off to go to get the ID. Work may not give you the time off.
You need to pay for transportation to get the ID. You may not be able to afford to.
You need the documentation to get the ID. You may not have it.
It is not just the fees.
I’d rather fix the poor problem than allow voter fraud.
Cool, please show evidence of any sort of major voter fraud that was solved by requiring voter IDs. Good luck.
Can anyone prove definitely that corrupt politicians are trying to keep poor voters from voting?
Still seems like an assertion that’s a matter of opinion.
Did anyone throw the same fit about driving cars? You have to take the same time off work and get all the same documents to do literally every other civil function: legally drive to work, open a bank account for direct deposit, get a credit card, get medical treatment, get insurance, file taxes, etc. You have to pay for transportation to the grocery store if you don’t have a car.
Why is just one political group making a fuss about it, which seems to be really focus on voting? You only vote once in a while. You do or use those other examples every day.
I feel like a larger issue is just being exploited for political people to make victom statements.
Why is voting less important to prove identity than buying alcohol?
I’m not a citizen of this country. You’re saying I can/should vote? That’s illegal, but what stops me. I could do it a bunch of times too, I just go to different places.
Why is just one political group making a fuss about it, which seems to be really focus on voting?
Because Republicans don’t want the poor to be voting. Especially if those poor people aren’t white. Do you really find it shocking that Republicans do better if black people aren’t able to vote? Because that’s what Jim Crow was all about.
Even the All-American League of Women Voters is against it because it’s racist and classist. https://www.lwv.org/blog/whats-so-bad-about-voter-id-laws
I’m not a citizen of this country. You’re saying I can/should vote?
No, that’s why you register to vote. You can’t vote with an ID if you haven’t registered. And for all of my life until this ID nonsense, they just checked your signature against the address you registered and you could vote.
If you tried to do some sort of fraudulent voting, you would have to somehow register to vote multiple times.
You know what you also couldn’t do? Register to vote multiple times, even if you didn’t have an ID, because you had to show something very simple like an official bill to your address and you could register.
Again- you find me evidence that there was massive voter fraud that ID stopped. The fact is, it didn’t stop any fraud, but it did stop a lot of poor black people from voting.
Again, read the League of Women voters link. Note that the very first headline is:
Voter Photo ID Laws Won’t Prevent Voter Fraud
The second is:
ID Laws as Voter Suppression
It will explain the whole thing even better than I can.
Although I’m sure you can find a reason to discount anything that the largest nonpartisan voting advocacy group in the nation, which has been around for more than a century, is full of shit. Let’s hear it.
