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Fuck features, security is the important thing here. If they are 10 (11?) months old on major systems version jumps, the fuck are they doing for monthly security patches?! A year? 18 months?

For me, the biggest drive for me when getting a phone is rapid security updates. Then, openness of the bootloader. My phone - everyone’s phone - is a golden ticket to a huge trove of data about the person. Modular parts and repairability are important (and very desirable for me), but absolutely not at the cost of security.

And it’s not like it’s difficult to put these together. Android… 8? Set the framework for modern updates. Everything is separate and only what you need to update has to be touched, so they can be very small and quick to install. We aren’t in the multi-gig full system images days, requiring full QA and deep testing anymore. Patch, ship. It’s not fucking difficult!

Arghhhhh!

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If they are 10 (11?) months old on major systems version jumps, the fuck are they doing for monthly security patches?!

Wait, what does one have to do with the other? When a new Android version comes out it doesn’t mean that the previous one stops getting security fixes. You can stay on a previous version and still be up to date on security.

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You can, but if one isn’t providing consistent and timely patches, you’re not secure. And if it takes nearly a year to push a version bump, they aren’t going to be on the ball with smaller fixes either.

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Tell me you never had to maintain software without telling me you never had to maintain software. 😂

(It’s actually opposite: If someone were slow on the smaller patches that’d bode ill for the big ones, but the opposite has no meaning)

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Jumping to a new major version takes more effort than releasing incremental updates for a version they already have in production (presumably for several models).

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What does security have to do with feature updates?

Fairphone for example patches security updates pretty (not perfectly, granted) quickly, but is about a year or so behind on feature updates.

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They incorrectly assumed that when Fairphone was working on the A14 feature update that they halted any and all security updates for existing versions which is not true.

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There is no relation, this person just seems to have fallen for security theatre.

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https://support.fairphone.com/hc/en-us/articles/18682800465169-Fairphone-5-OS-Release-Notes

So far, security updates have been delivered after 1 Month. Security updates can also be delivered after the release of a new Android version.

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Hrm, not bad. TIL.

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They come out with all the security updates (anywhere between 2 weeks and a month after Google pushes them out). They don’t wait for a feature update to push out security updates.

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