I honestly hated idea of linux for soooo long. Ew. Like ew. Doesn’t work, borks, needs command line, wtf is that steaming pile of…yeah. Ew.
But insert the goddamn bird with cracker meme after I tried Nobara last year (tried some other distros too). When Windows 10 loses support, I am pretty confident that Nobara will fill most of my needs.
And, well, have some IT experience, with linux too, so occasional terminal isn’t that bad. I was simply afraid of constantly having to work in terminal.
I use CLI a lot because I find it much more convenient, so I’m genuinely curious where do you actually still need it in a modern distro as a standard user?
It’s not that you neeeed it for most basic stuff, but if you search how to do something the results are more commonly terminal commands.
In my experience learning Windows 10 for my job, the results of searching for how to do something are: ‘click-this’ tutorials that don’t work because Microsoft changed something in the next edition, editing the registry, or PowerShell commands. The registry editing sometimes doesn’t work because Microsoft changed something. The PowerShell method is the way to go, because Microsoft has embraced the command line.
Yep, when posting how to do something, between ‘select an example and paste to answer’ or ‘series of screenshots to illustrate a gui way’, the text copy/paste wins on laziness of answer.
Besides, there’s a decent chance that a person has to solve it for some arbitrarily large number of systems, and speaking in CLI is a vocabulary that can more trivially be made headless across a bunch of systems.
Well, the thing is, you almost don’t. But like the other commenter said, most instructions are for terminal when something happens and from my - fairly limited as of now - experience, terminal is still key to linux configuration.
What was mostly generating the Ew response was the fact that linux isn’t really known for being newbie friendly. Then getting hit with headless debian during studies also didn’t exactly change what I thought.
I understand your argument, just isn’t the GUI version meant to work without external instructions? Otherwise I don’t really see a point in it. That instructions are mainly for terminal is probably because it’s easier and clearer than posting screen shots, and that for both authors and users. But that might just be my impression.
I just use it to get updates with apt-get or Pacman or yay. I haven’t seen any other way to update non flatpack programs on the distros I use
My kids’ PCs have a gnome extension that says how many updates there are and you can install them by clicking on the icon. Could be handy if you use gnome too.
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1010/archlinux-updates-indicator/
I actually use KDE’s discover to apply all the updates (flathub and yum). Mainly because I’m lazy and the update icon appears and it’s quick to just click through.
Hmm, mount a network drive, or any drive? On Windows it’s a few clicks in Explorer, but I’m not aware of it being that easy on any distro I used. Always had to go into /etc/fstab manually
Mounting of USB drive is automatic, SFTP can be done with file browser (bookmarking). Permanent nfs mounting, like you do in fstab I don’t know, maybe in the “drives” program. I would honestly argue that this is not a casual use case, but yes, I get your point. In the end it simply depends on the desktop environment.
Yeah a lot of people will hear a very basic rundown of Linux from someone who has a bad experience with it (they installed it without reading anything) and they hate on it for life never looking into how things have improved.
A LOT of people in that crowd don’t even know about Valve proton and how well that works.
