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An idling gas engine may be annoyingly loud, but that’s the price you pay for having WAY less torque available at a standstill.

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Okay, but it is still jumping through hoops which doesn’t exist with gas cars. What if I have 3 people driving, like in a road trip? You can’t continuously drive after refueling anymore. It isn’t just a perception thing, it absolutely requires planning and stops you wouldn’t take otherwise.

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You jump through all sorts of hoops with gas cars. We’ve all made it part of the habits of our lives and don’t think about them, but they’re absolutely there.

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I’d honestly love to just plug in every night instead of having to spend time getting gas every week. Sure it’s only a few minutes, but that’s probably a few hours of my life every year. Getting an electric vehicle and renting cars for road trips would honestly make much more sense for me.

Unfortunately, it looks like it’d be financially irresponsible for me to buy an electric car right now while I still have a perfectly functional ICE car.

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You’re arguing in favor of quickly swappable batteries.

China’s got your back.

https://hbr.org/2024/05/how-one-chinese-ev-company-made-battery-swapping-work

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It’s not going to work out. Battery connections need to be standardized across manufacturers, which is a lot more complicated than standardizing a plug. The garages to do swaps are a lot more complicated than chargers. It forces certain decisions on battery placement, which cuts out things like integrating the battery into the frame to save weight.

Charger deployment has raced ahead. We need a lot more of them to support the EVs we already have, and need even more for the EVs that are going to be purchased over the next decade. Switching over to swapping would send the EV market into whiplash that just isn’t necessary.

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I’m not understanding your “it can’t be standardized if it’s too complicated” argument. That hasn’t seemed to have been a big issue for, for example, computer motherboards.

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jumping through hoops which doesn’t exist with gas cars.

You have to physically drive to a different location to get petrol. That’s a hoop. Just because you’re used to it doesn’t mean it’s not there.

What if I have 3 people driving, like in a road trip? You can’t continuously drive after refueling anymore. It isn’t just a perception thing, it absolutely requires planning and stops you wouldn’t take otherwise.

It is a perception. The vast majority of trips this won’t be an issue. In the once in a bluemoon that you’ll be driving more than the range of the car, yes, it could be. This is where it’s perception. People seem to think that they’ll run commuting to work or half the journeys they take will be affected. Whereas it’s really really rare.

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So what you are saying is “I don’t care about the points you raised” essentially. I said specifically “hoops that don’t exist with gas cars” not “gas cars don’t have hoops to jump through”. Electric cars have issues with trips longer than their range, which you then need to charge for a very long time compared to just refueling the gas car.

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