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Ah, so the holocaust was a war then too since some jews resisted, right? If the US government started killing illegal migrants would that be a “war”?

Always makes things so much simpler when we can just kind of make words mean whatever we want huh?

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There was this little thing that was happening around the same time as the holocaust, World War 2.

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Yeah, the Germans and the jews were just two warring factions, same as the UK and Germany or the US and Japan etc. The jews weren’t experiencing a genocide, they were just experiencing a war like everyone else. Right?

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the point slurpinderpin and me are making is they can happen simultaneously, neither of us are denying genocide.

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No. Hamas is an organized armed group, fighting Israel, another organized armed group. You are the one trying to twist the definition of war. It’s very clear cut

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The vast majority of deaths are innocent civilians. It’s not a war, no.

There were holocaust survivors that armed themselves and fought back. That makes it a war by your definition. Germany and the jews of europe were just fighting a war.

See how that works?

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Ugh man, sure, if you want to go that far, Jews who armed themselves and fought against Nazis were in a war. Whatever. But in war, civilians are killed.

“Between 300,000–600,000 German civilians and over 200,000 Japanese civilians were killed by allied bombing during the Second World War, most as a result of raids intentionally targeted against civilians themselves.” Source: https://academic.oup.com/book/9859/chapter-abstract/157134577?redirectedFrom=fulltext

“Some 75 million people died in World War II, including about 20 million military personnel and 40 million civilians” Source : https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-hccc-worldhistory2/chapter/casualties-of-world-war-ii/

Please recognize that you are trying to twist the definition of war here, not me.

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