Even without guns involved, there are many regions with antifascist groups which come and give them a beating (see Patriot Front getting run out of Philadelphia). Collective violent resistance intimidates them. Non-violent tactics are essential, they come first and are more important overall, but violence makes them scare to come outside. Just look at the dissolution of the British Union of Fascists after the '43 Group threw bricks at them enough times for a big example (there are many smaller examples - especially since modern neo-nazis tend to recruit scrawny teens online who can’t handle getting beaten up).

I feel it’s important to add here that the only thing these chuds understand is strength and power, and violence is the only thing that will counteract their influence. Maybe it doesn’t require physical violence right now and other forms of strength would frighten them off - counter protests seem to work well in Germany, not to mention full-on bans of their gatherings (they don’t have a similar 1A of course…).

At some point however I fear that physical violence is the only solution with them. Unfortunately, fascism evolved to chink away at all the weak spots in the liberal democrat’s armor and use the things we love against us. They don’t care about truth, they don’t care about consistency, etc. They can’t be beat on the debate stage because they don’t care about words. All they care about is strength because they’re 99% insecure lemming cowards and we have to use it against them.

The thing about this is, these assholes abuse the same legal loopholes that the hate group west boro baptist church uses, as well as everyone who protests at pride parades, outside abortion centers, and the like. They are there to incite you to violence, and then they sue you. Because they are technically free to offend. Abusers like them use the justice system to abuse good people standing up to intolerance and hate, and it can ruin someones life, having to go through a protracted legal battle, going to prison, and facing fines. Having “assault” on your record will definitely provide you with difficulty finding employment, that’s for sure.

The liberals who own guns are waiting for them to make everything official and obvious, for sonething that starts a civil war. They dont wanna just get jailed for murder. They do not understand the concept of illiberalism, or are too afraid to prevent it

This is the shittiest violence stroking take Ive seen since the incident. You’re either an idiot or a false actor stroking the flame. Guns aren’t here so we can indiscriminately shoot dumb fucking nazis on the street. They’re here so if those nazis show up at your door to drag you and your families out, that they can be dealt with. Knowing that people have them is a deterrent from these cucks even showing up at your house.