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It is very understandable why you would now try to back down off of your claim that a single person should be able to change an entire industry from being profitable or not. It is fine to admit you were wrong though, it does you no favors to try to act like that was never your stance. The comments are all still there.

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that isn’t the claim i made. in fact, its remarkably similar to the one you are making.

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And yet here you are claiming that if people abstaining don’t result in their profit going down, then abstaining does nothing.

we have evidence people abstain. we have evidence that the production increases. there is no evidence that abstaining from buying meat has ever reduced emissions.

It is obvious that you really don’t want to be responsible for your actions. That is the heart of this issue. No amount of going back and forth with me will do that for you. It is you who needs to look at what you do. If you think funding other people to do terrible things that hurt the environment doesn’t actually make you responsible for those horrible things, then no amount of explanation will change this for you. Even if you get me to say “you are right, you can pay anyone to do any terrible thing that brings you pleasure, and you have no moral responsibility for this”, it still won’t make it true. This isn’t hard to see. It just takes you to be willing to analyze it honestly.

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you are right, you can pay anyone to do any terrible thing that brings you pleasure, and you have no moral responsibility for this”

another strawman

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And yet here you are claiming that if people abstaining don’t result in their profit going down, then abstaining does nothing.

i’m not discussing profit at all. i’m talking about emissions.

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