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we are so far removed from any actual argument that my characterization can’t be considered a strawman so much as “The way most people are able to interact online”.

but i’m happy to state this formally enough that i’d pass a student in my logic class:

the claim is that abstaining from factory farmed meat has a benefit for the environment. the supposed mechanism is that by refusing to buy a product, the producers will prorduce less, and therefore have lower emissions.we have evidence people abstain. we have evidence that the production increases. there is no evidence that abstaining from buying meat has ever reduced emissions.

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With you helping, x is increasing by 101 every day, without you, it is increasing by 100. This is the crux of what you are misunderstanding. The difference you make does not pull it from the negative to the positive.

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how can we test your theory? can you point on this graph to when you stopped eating factory farmed meat?

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/global-meat-production?facet=none

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It still isn’t quite clicking for you. An individual person starting or stopping to give money to an entire industry does not change the industry from being profitable or not. I never said it did. It is you who has consistently claimed that it should, despite a lack of evidence. It is a very solipsistic view to think that one person’s purchases change an entire industry from being profitable or not. I don’t really know how to get you to internalize the logic behind this, you really just need to try hard to work it out for yourself if this is really the point that you are struggling with.

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