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You’re right. That’s not democracy either. Real democracy doesn’t happen just at votes. It also happens in these kinds of discussions. And it adapts to new information.

I actually think a lot changed between that decision and now. I don’t think anywhere near as many people doubted Joe Biden back then because his actions in the last four years spoke loud enough. But as the vote gets closer, confidence isn’t measured in objectivity but in the effectiveness of appeal to voters.

Joe Biden might still be the best pick at the end of the day, but if that comes to be it needs to be because the concerns have been resolved and the opposition satisfied. You have four months and his candidacy isn’t even locked in. Other countries can fit 4 elections in that same period. A single good debate can swing votes, but if Joe keeps it up he will not swing back hard enough.

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Joe should not be the issue in the election. When has a FELON ever run for president?! Why is the SUPREME COURT declaring the president KING!? You’ve all lost the fucking thread and I don’t know why I bother.

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You’re legitimately looking at this too rationally. Because you’re absolutely right, but that’s just not the reality of the situation. The reality is that only about 40% of people are going to vote for Joe Biden no matter what. Trump doesn’t have a guaranteed majority either, but you need that final 10% (or more or less because of the Electoral College) to be convinced Joe Biden will deliver on the things they consider Trump for. And if that concern is that he’s not ‘strong’ enough to stand up to China or something because he’s too ‘weak’ of a president, you must not ignore that because you need these people to get the goal you desire.

Converting the other people in the country back to rational people just isn’t going to happen this election. It’s a process that might take generations to be reverted. You need this victory now to even get a chance at starting that process. And by showing them their concerns matter and you don’t just want to dismiss them, is part of regaining that trust and building a foundation to depolarize.

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It’s not going to happen because the media and every pundit up to John fucking Stewart think they can stop biden from running and they are all dead wrong. I have a mug in my house “I believe in RGB” (was a gift). We’ve rationalized theses old fucks loose grip on reality to the point of merchandising. While we all fight over how we’re going to elect Harris Trump wipes his ass with classified documents for fun.

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