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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_I

might be an interesting read:

By March 1, 1976, Wozniak completed the basic design of his computer.[22][23] Wozniak originally offered the design to HP while working there, but it was rejected by the company on five occasions.[24] When he demonstrated his computer at the Homebrew Computer Club, his friend and fellow club regular Steve Jobs was immediately interested in its commercial potential.[25] Wozniak intended to share schematics of the machine for free, but Jobs advised him to start a business together and sell bare printed circuit boards for the computer.[26][27][28] Wozniak, at first skeptical, was later convinced by Jobs that even if they were not successful they could at least say to their grandchildren that they had had their own company. To raise the money they needed to build the first batch of the circuit boards, Wozniak sold his HP-65 scientific calculator while Jobs sold his Volkswagen van.[26][27]

to me he just seems like a businessman, not a developer

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He was a moron, he died from eating too much fruit against the advice of his doctors.

That’s all you need to know.

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I mean, no. He died because he tried alternative medicine BS to treat his pancreatic cancer instead of actual medicine.

His doctors didn’t tell him to stop “eating too much fruit”.

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Well he did think different. That includes his thinking about medicine.

So there are pros and cons to thinking different.

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I’m not fan of Jobs but people are so eager to shit on him and hoist up “poor forgotten Wozniak” that they ignore all the credit and praise Wozniak himself gives Jobs.

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Yeah, but a lot of that praise is because Jobs did what Woz couldn’t… On the other hand, Woz did what no one else could.

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I have the deepest respect for Woz but yes once in a while jobs had interesting ideas that people that wasn’t possible because he had some engineering sense and understood what was/wasn’t reasonable to ask for in a product (Unfortunately that is not how he behaved with people, hence why he is rightfully remembered as a sociopath of the worst order).

It’s one thing to ask for the impossible because you’re ignorant/arrogant and not considering what is actually feasible. But Jobs’s track record was actually pretty good when it came to calling for things that people were skeptical of yet were absolutely possible, as evidence d by the products they would put to market. The iPod was considered a moonshot at one time.

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