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Russian interest have little to do with western European interests any further then not allowing anyone else challenge their dominance. I want a free Ukraine, but after seeing how the west sees Palestine and how Ukraine was the largest money laundering front to Israel. Ontop if their refugees coming into Europe being some of the most extremely racist (which is fine but I find so hypocritical coming from the demonisation from real refugees from around the world who dont look like them)

Individual Ukrainians are decent most of the time but the Ukrainian govt can be wiped off the map for all I care

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