Comment by Cethin@lemmy.zip on JavaScript

So a strictly typed language… I think those already exist.

Yeah, ideally TypeScript would be natively supported. Or maybe just Python, which is sort-of strictly typed, and definitely won’t do “wat”. Alas, it’s not the world we live in, and browsers take JavaScript.

Python supports type hints, but you need to use a type checker like Pyre or Pyright to actually check them. Python itself doesn’t do anything with the type hints.

If there was an easy way to use rust or something on webassemly and use that instead of JS. I’d be so happy, but I can’t find how to do it without npm.

Rust would probably be the wrong tool here. This is scripting, so pointers like Rust is built around aren’t really meaningful. Kotlin or Python or something are more on the ticket.

Websites have grown beyond mere scripting.
Rust is about more than just nicer pointers, it has a very expressive type system that enables correctness rarely seen outside FP.

Websites have grown beyond mere scripting.

Parts of them, yeah. WASM in Rust makes total sense.

Rust is about more than just nicer pointers, it has a very expressive type system that enables correctness rarely seen outside FP.

If you say so. I’d suggest Haskell, but it doesn’t work very naturally with interactivity, either user or intersystem.

It’s in alpha, but there is a Kotlin to wasm compiler in the works.

Does WASM do DOM manipulation nowadays?

Just use javascript and don’t try to add {} to [].

Well, you never try to.

Doesn’t look like it, unfortunately. But it’s planned. Kotlin can also compile to JavaScript with DOM manipulation. I’ve not tried either scenario, myself.

I can’t wait for the day I can use something like Kotlin to write Frontend code. Maybe there’ll be something like vue or react build on it

You could use Java ages ago and it was, very rightly so, abandoned.

Kotlin -> JavaScript would work. I assume there must be a Python version of that as well.

We use this framework at work: https://leptos.dev

You can use WebAssembly today, but you still need some JS interop for a bunch of browser features (like DOM manipulation). Your core logic can be in WebAssembly though. C# has Blazor, and I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some Rust WebAssembly projects. I seem to recall that there’s a reimplementation of Flash player that’s built in Rust and compiles to WebAssembly.

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