Comment by nebula42@lemmy.zip on Those evil socialists are hiding their homeless in homes

wait I’m confused how is the top middle picture anti-homeless architecture

Homeless people sleep on the vents for warmth.

The vents are still accessible though? And you have these nifty mannequins to hang your stuff?

Edit: honest question, possibly unnecessary joke.

Let them eat cake. Try sleeping on them and report back to us. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile_architecture

I feel like we’re talking past each other. I’m wondering how the weird human-shaped things added on top of the vents constitute hostile architecture - how are they meant to to discourage people from sleeping there? This is me trying to learn, I’m very aware that sleeping on vents isn’t exactly comfortable but how do these things make it less so?

You’d probably have to lie between them instead of just looking at a photo, to assess if it’s still possible.

Clearly they were put there with the intention of making it difficult/uncomfortable to lie down on the subway vent. If they were installed incompetently that doesn’t make them unhostile though, it just makes them ineffective for their obviously intended purpose.

I see what you’re digging at, I was confused by them too. Hostile architecture meets just plain terrible design?

Right? It looks like there was an attempt (gold star) at hostility but they still wanted it to look somewhat aesthetically pleasing and mostly forgot about the hostile part? Or maybe I’m just not seeing most of the hostile part, that’s what I’m trying to figure out.

how do these things make it less [comfortable]?

You already answered your own question:

weird human-shaped things added on top of the vents

It’s hard to believe you’re not trolling.

https://www.azuremagazine.com/article/unpleasant-design-hostile-architecture/

I also came across some inventive designs that I haven’t seen elsewhere, such as metal silhouettes soldered on top of warm ventilation exhausts at a CTrain station (below), a place where you could consider camping for the night.

Metal silhouettes prevent homeless people from sleeping over these CTrain grates in Calgary.

I really doubt they’re trolling, it’s a real question. A person can clearly fit between the gaps and sleep.

It would block things like tents and mattresses, but it’s reasonable [edit: even if ignorant] to ask how it works if it doesn’t obstruct a sleeping person. For what it’s worth, in my city, it’s rare to see tents or even mattresses, usually just blankets and shopping carts.

Try sleeping on them and report back to us.

No need for that kind of talk, it’s as pointless as saying “Go there and prove you can’t sleep on them”.

It’s hard to believe you’re not trolling.

I swear I’m not. It’s entirely possible that I’m being slow, but I’m really just trying to understand so I can identify these things better in the future. Because I seriously don’t get it, there’s still plenty of room to lie down between them?

They look human like, maybe they are meant to cast a shadow or something to make people uncomfortable like somebody is watching?

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