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State capitalism isn’t communism nor socialism

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The Soviets would have agreed that they hadn’t achieved communism but China is an example of state capitalism, not the Soviets. They were socialists, and they were also authoritarians. The means of production were collectively owned.

Whether they were good Marxists when their system created just another oppressive heirarchy is another question, but the richest Soviet kleptocrat wasn’t anywhere close to a billionaire as far as I’m aware.

If someone wants to prove otherwise they’re welcome to.

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Just because someone says they represent everyone, and that what they own is owned by everyone, doesn’t make it true.

Did people have a say in what they could do with that infrastructure, or was it ultimately just up to the people in charge? If the former, it was socialism, if the latter, it wasn’t.

Be more concerned with what people do, not necessarily what they say, when ascribing ideals to them.

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Uh huh. Thanks for explaining that to me, you’re so smart and know so much about this :)

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if by “collectively owned” you mean “owned by the government”, sure

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Yes, that would be a collective meant to represent the people, good job.

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